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Monday, March 06, 2006

A Dinner Invitation...

After a hard day lasting through Bob's 2 hour assault (lecture) i arrive home to find a letter addressed to me

A personal invitation from Wenatex Events.

Wenatex has been operating in Europe for over 40 years and is now in Australia....we are looking to extend our brand awareness here. We would like to like to invite you and your partner as our personal guests (emphesis theres) at one of our entertaining information evenings which includes a wonderful dinner.

While dinning in lovely surroundings we will inform you about current trends and new scientific research into the subject of healthy sleep -completely obligation free

You, Your partner and any attending guests on the evening will recieve a fantastic gift as an additional thankyou this will be given to you on the night....Events coordinators are standing by to confirm your attendance.

Wow...i hardly ever get invited to dinner especially not with a partner (they didn't tell me who my partner was.....which you reckon they would especially if they've gone to all the trouble to find a partner for me....maybe i'll get her on the night along with the fantastic gift)

I don't know who these people....i don't even know anybody else who knows them? but i get free dinner in exchange for listening to a lecture....(I pay money to go to uni and listen to lectures all day these people are giving me a free dinner to do it)

hmmm dunno if i'll go, the restaurant is pretty posh....but i get a free gift....free gift sounds like code for "free products to try" anyone got an opinion for me?

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208 Comments:

  • I punched it into Google and came up with an Austrian company selling manchester, if that were true you could invite me :)

    How do you think they got your name and address? Phone book? I know some people who when asked for their address deliberately write it with a small error so if they get mail with the same error they can tell that some one has been selling their mailing list.

    They obviously going to do a hard sell, how good are you at saying "no".

    By Blogger Susan, at 7:05 PM  

  • Hmmm... did they actually say the dinner was free? If so, GO! You're a uni student! Come on, it's free!
    Find someone to be your 'partner' and go!

    On the other hand... I do always find it suspicious when people know my name and address... Once a lady on the phone was trying to sell me wine and she knew me by name. During the course of the conversation she made the blunder of saying my personal info will be kept confidential. Pah! "So where did you get my name and phone number from?" I asked. "The company you got them from didn't keep them confidential, did they?".

    She had no answer for that.

    By Blogger Rachel, at 7:48 PM  

  • I reckon i'm pretty good at being stubborn and saying no when i don't want to do something and this is definately one of those. Yes the dinner is free and it would be a good story too...both are appealing..but i really can't forsee anyone wanting to come with me to listen to a dude talk sleep tablets. Maybe i could ask for take away ;)

    By Blogger Trav, at 11:14 PM  

  • I think they saw your post with all the mattresses. looks like they sell comfy bed stuff. Maybey they'll give you some. remember, it's just like with Drugs... Just say no.

    But do go, and blog about it ok?

    By Blogger Tab, at 11:34 PM  

  • Kinda sounds like ur mum wants to be ur date... sweet. You should take her. after all, she did go through the pain of birth for you. Perhaps in this small way you could repay her.

    By Blogger Tab, at 11:35 PM  

  • Go and eat all their food and keep asking for more. And take some photos so you can put them on your blog.

    By Blogger Christop, at 9:20 AM  

  • "they didn't tell me who my partner was.....which you reckon they would especially if they've gone to all the trouble to find a partner for me....maybe i'll get her on the night along with the fantastic gift"
    maybe your partner is the fantastic gift, you should go if its a free meal

    By Blogger Craig, at 12:19 PM  

  • as a man and a uni student, it would be against all ethical grounds for you to knock back free food. and you could ask one of your housemates to come, they wouldn't say not to free food either would they. and they can't exactly say you can't take another bloke with you these days.

    By Blogger ¿johnman¿, at 2:09 PM  

  • Hey just got the same wenatex letter / invite and did a google search "wenatex" and found this blog. Im convinced its some kind of scam but me and my gf are considering going to check it out, nothing scam wise comes up on google, just seems like some hard sell on mattresses / herbal pills.
    Free food sounds good and free $20 gift i think we have to go but would be good if you have found out what their angle is. Hey if we go in numbers we can start a revolt if they try hypnotising us.
    m & s
    martin@exportid.com

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:16 AM  

  • Yep - they flog a 'bedding system' that comprises fancy mattress, overlay with herbs in it, a cover with anti-bug properties and anti-moisture properties - bit like the GoreTex principle. The business model is to do direct selling through these seminars (read, sales talk and demo), and in turn give you a bit of a feed and a gift - wool wash or a tube of herbal cream. $20? maybe, maybe not! Looks like good kit, but bloody expensive.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:08 PM  

  • Has anyone actually turned up at one of these?
    I have an invite, plus 1 partner PLUS 2 other guests!
    Must be special!
    Frre food sounds good but....
    PLease respond if anyone has been yet.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:57 PM  

  • I went to one and yes they were selling matreses & bed products. But hey, you can always say no to that as I did and get a free dinner. Did hear some interesting stuff about sleep patterns etc. and there was a free gift - I don't know about it being valued at $20 though - who knows.
    Anyway, I'd say go for the night out, sit through the promo lecture and eat the FREE food.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:32 PM  

  • Hey Trav, watch out for commenters saying "Hey, go check it out anyway, have a free dinner, I went and it was fine", etc, etc.

    They are Wenatex marketing, I busted one on my blog by reverse-lookup of his IP address.

    Personally, I'd sleep MUCH BETTER if these people didn't exist. Ironic eh??? ;)

    By Anonymous Timbo, at 2:36 PM  

  • I went to a seminar last night, cheap club food,ice water. Had to buy a Coke to refresh myself, they didn't even supply tea. Hostess got jack of me quick 'cause I knew more than she did about sleep and good beds. Must have convinced everyone since there were no buyers. Bloody expensive stuff $4736 queen mattress with 2 pillows, herb base and 1 quilt! And thats only on the seminar night. Expect to pay another grand if you dilly dally. Cheaper to buy a good quality waterbed.

    By Anonymous woody wobblestick, at 9:29 AM  

  • funny reading all your stories, yes i did go and yes i was one of the "scammed" funny thing though... i have never slept so good since, it's really all its cracked up to be. expensive... no i don't think so. i went out to research bed before going and manchester ie, quilts and pillows. the average for a GOOD QUALITY mattress is about 2-4000 dollars quilts as we all know anywhere from 20-600 dollars pillows etc etc you get the picture. all i am saying they are only expensive and a con to people who look for a con and expensive, well go and look for yourself!! i say thumbs up and bums down to have the best night sleep, unless you are looking for a typical cheap mattress(don't forget how many people complain about aches and pain and uncomfortable nights sleep) they can have there cheap and nasty, i spend about a third of my life in bed and it reacts on the other 2 thirds with sore backs and no sleep, so do yourself a favour and get a ggod mattress what ever the brand, and to the idiot that knew more than the salesman and wanted to be known as the "better man" you really only looked like a dick, ithe guy was trying to do his job and earn money, hope he comes into your workplace and does the same to you!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:28 PM  

  • hmm the good folk at wenatex must be pretty busy , i just got one of there dinner invites also,

    basicly the venue locally is a pokie venue that specialises in the "el povadentae" dining experiance and as such i wont be attending for a second rate feed to hear someone rantng about me needing a new bed to sleep well, when half a dozen beers does the trick for me perfectly, (and costs a hell of a lot less that 4k)

    anyway given that this is the top hit in google anyone elso tat hits this blog is welcome to my free gift certificates.

    let me know on holto(remove)@hotmail.com if you want em,

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:47 PM  

  • What can I say...I had a blast at my Wenatex seminar/dinner....There was this pommy guy and his assistant...he was cracking funnies all night. His assistant was a nurse and was pretty legit!
    We didnt buy the bed due to finances but If i had the cash I would...dont be scared of this guys its all cool...If you are an impulsive buyer walk out after dinner.
    All in all was over by 9.30 offer made either accepted or declined...there was No pressure..food rocked too.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:30 AM  

  • Mum just got one in the mail, asked me to check it out on the net. You dont learn anything from the invite. The complimentary dinner is being held at, like mentioned earlier, a rank local Pokies joint. I was in there 7 months ago for a beer, and left with need for a tetanus shot. Wouldnt want mum to be subjected to it lol. Scams never end.

    By Anonymous Biff Armstrong, at 7:17 AM  

  • I just got one the invites, did a google and up popped this blog. Dinner for this one is at a high end golf course, supposedly well known for higher end middle range food.

    Where did they get my name from... I have a P O box, rarely get crap mail.
    (Guess that will change now..)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:38 PM  

  • Apart from being massively over priced and secretive about their product and probably unethically getting names of people with known sleep problems (likely via your medical practitioner ) -- the 'presenter' seemed genuinely surprised when the 'targetted ' attendee expressed no known sleeping problems - hardly the expected reaction to a random mail out. The clincher for me was the longwinded selling not of bedding but of fear itself -- bed bugs, dust mites, dust mite corpses and dust mite crap etc and "micor maggots' that are infesting your prsent mattress together with gallons of sweat,toxins and saliva (example ,"25% of the weight of you present pillow is saliva and sweat,skin flakes etc " - B.S.! )

    Also -- inner spring mattresses are a life endangering threat to your health picking up the electro magnetic forces caused by the wiring in your walls and that innocuous bedside radio or coffee maker are emitting radiation as dangerous as a micro wave oven that is picked up by your metal bed springs ...... more utter crap and unscientific claims follow to terrorize you into buying this lifesaving bedding.

    It is a scam, braches the trade practices act and should be stopped.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:39 PM  

  • What an idiot...ie last comment...its actually well known about EMFs in the home environment to certain informed people.

    The most high-profile case of electrical hypersensitivity is Gro Harlem Brundtland the last Secretary-General of the World Health Organisation, W.H.O, she is a medical doctor and former Prime Minister of Norway. Her account of how she is affected is given in her own words as an appendix Click here for Gro Harlem Brundtland The WHO have a programme of research on EHS and its implications and held a scientific conference in Prague last October 25th to 27th a ‘Workshop on Electrical Hypersensitivity’.

    Pull your head out of your proverbial ass and do some homework.

    I refer for your perusal

    http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/

    It should be apparent from the very existence of this website that we are not technophobes or anti-technology luddites objecting to progress and change. That is far from the truth though occasionally thrown at us by those, especially commercial interests or rentaquote pseudo-scientists, who feel threatened by our science and message. We are not an anti-mast group per se, but share common cause with them over health effects and the lack of consideration given to them in planning policy.

    Neither are we alone. Almost every western industrialised nation where independent groups are permitted has objectors like us advocating caution because of health threats. In Germany 'The Freiburger Appeal' requesting changes to policy has been signed by over 2000 medical doctors. In Sweden 'Feb' their Association for the Electrically Injured has over 2,800 members and started in 1987. Finland, Norway, France, Australia the USA and others all are in touch with us and the dangers. We receive reports from the Irish Doctors Environmental Association.

    Far from us rejecting new technology indeed, many of us were keen and upfront geeky types adopting every new application and version of electronic gadgetry even before it appeared on retailers shelves. That is how we learned the hard way and try to warn you about this reckless marketing of untested and unnecessary uses, to save you from the problems of overexposure leading to overload, and consequent breakdown.

    From www.Good Health Info.net under the Health Effects of Microwave Radiation, we find from Brussels:

    “The public is now understandably wary of safety assurances from “official” government scientific sources w.r.t. [with regard to] electromagnetic pollution. This skepticism is enhanced when views contrary to official perceived wisdom are, at worst silenced or, at best, studiously ignored.”
    March 2001 report by the European Parliament STOA

    Concerns now receiving scientific attention are:
    1) the breakdown of the blood/brain barrier from microwaves allowing in toxins leading to brain tumours. Especially relevant to heavy mobile users, children and young persons.
    2) Leukaemia and other cancers.
    3) Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
    4) Myalgic Encephalopathy (ME)
    5) Immune system destabilisation via melatonin
    6) Thyroid and Endocrine system problems due to destabilisation and loss of homeostasis.
    7 Provocation studies claiming to look at links between mobile phone type emissions and claims to electrosensitivity. These latter being part-financed by the mobile phone industry and conducted by psychologists (!) are seen by many to be artfully designed to obfuscate and confuse the issue. Blame and causation will be put down to delusional individuals "they are all mental" we confidently predict in advance. This is known to gamblers as " having the fix in" See tetrawatch.net for details and scientific criticism.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:19 AM  

  • I never realised went i blogged about this back in March that i would become the go to person for people invited to wenatex events. Personally i'm just a humble blogger who's sleept on the same single mattress since i was 14.

    I suspect some who comment about going to the wenatex event are wenatex insiders trying to convince people to go.

    But if there are any wenatex people reading this....i got to busy to go and missed my free meal. Could you send another invite :P

    By Blogger Trav, at 8:59 PM  

  • I find this highly amusing. Not only is it clearly a scam, but the trolls can't even be nice.

    With regards to the post by Anonymous at 3:19 AM, you obviously work for the company. Did it occur to you that being abusive does nothing but prove how pathetically unethical the Wenatex company is. I feel sorry for you, as you defensive abusive response shows you are quite stressed over your association with Wenatex.

    By Anonymous Stedlar, at 6:16 PM  

  • I have been to the dinner invitation and the consultant was knowledgeable, friendly and interesting to listen to. The product was very good and worth the price because it lasts longer than the 'normal' mattress we usually buy. I recommend it to anyone who suffers from poor sleep or poor posture. By the way our dinner was not bad.
    Alicia

    By Blogger alicia, at 12:30 PM  

  • Just got the Wenatex invitation this week - was thinking about going - any dinner I don't have to cook is a good thing. The venue (The Tudor in Box Hill!) is not my idea of a classy place but it's pretty local and if we go in a group, hopefully we can back each other up and not get pressured! (One of us works for PacBrands so we all get excellent top of the range matresses and bedding for a fraction of the price so probably no in any great danger anyway) Still I did end up paying $4000 to join a totally useless holiday club a few years back which is virtually unusable if you happen to be a teacher, so I am a bit wary of attending these things!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:20 PM  

  • Ok well since this has become the defacto Wenatex page im happy to talk about our wenatex experience. Essentially it was a high pressure sales approach to an expensive memory fiber bed between $4000-$7500 depending on size / extras.
    The host and wife were nice and dont think they will leave you to sit by yourself and eat free meal.. the table is right up next to them and the presentation so theres no escape.. however just keep saying to yourself its a free meal and they cant force you to buy th bed. My wife and I had a great night, food was ok.. not great but its free and you get some free massage oil at the end. Regarding the bed, its really nice to lay on and they sold us both on memory fiber product.. but big but you are out of your friggin mind if you buy this bed, we found a full king size solid memory fiber mattress for $2000 from a bedding place in the paper, but we ended up spending $195 for a memory fiber mattress overlay from regular bedding stores which is 80% there and gives us both a great nights sleep.. make no mistake memory fiber is great to sleep on, the rest of the wenatex stuff they can keep. There was some outright scam rubbish keywords used during the night.. the old "colloidial silver" scam, nano particles?? and they show closeup pics of dustmites and literally say "these are INFESTING your children!!! dont you love your children?? .. a load of rubbish designed to fool simple people and evoke a guilt or obligational feeling.
    Anyway i recommend going and eating the free food and getting the free stuff to recompense you for having your mailbox / personal details abused.. just for gods sake dont buy the bed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:57 PM  

  • They want to sell me things and I have no money at all! LOL
    I got the letter with invite and free gift crap...
    Under a name I DONT use cept with company as I dont wish the company know who I am - so fake name with one company and that company gives it out to people...sigh.
    But Im so not going...I never trust things like this and being I have no money I cant buy their products....
    but a free meal....sigh

    By Blogger M, at 12:22 PM  

  • got the invite today. likewise i punched into google to see what came up. as i thought, another company trying to sell you something. no company is going to send out dinner invites and free gift vouchers unless they want something from you. (your money!!)
    you really think they'd want to spend the night seeing you enjoying your dinner on them and leave? not on this planet!!
    not going, sorry, not even for a free meal.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:01 PM  

  • yes i now too have recieved my invite for a free dinner and $20 gift, I searched straight away on line to find out about wenatex as their invitation doesn't have any hint's about what they are going to sell, And as we all know not much comes for free especially a nice dinner at Rydges south park on south terrace adelaide,
    Might consider going after reading everyone's blog's.
    S.Aus

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:36 PM  

  • Rydges hey, I got mine yesterday and we are invited to the Salibury Tavern, not much chop there, but will think about it. Dinner is dinner, but there again, i hate to be pressured into anything, but if we go in there knowing what to expect, I guess we can always walk out saying NO! They must have mass letterboxed dropped this, all over Australia, confidential information indeed! That will be my FIRST question, where did yo uget my details.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:21 PM  

  • It might not be true. But i was told by another blogger that you can buy details off the australian election role.

    I wasn't interested enough to look into it. But that could be one way.

    By Blogger Trav, at 6:38 PM  

  • Wow. I was researching Wenatex before submitting my application to become a presenter at these resurant info nights. I've never received an invite to a presentation but I've slept on a Wenatex bed whilst holidaying in Vienna, best sleep ever. They have a pretty solid reputation over there. I tried to buy one here at the shops but found only Tempur mattresses. They're expensive too. I bought one of those cheap overlays and I slept on it two nights before getting rid of it. I've been searching for that good night's sleep ever since Vienna. The people I stayed with in Austria are doctors and they thought it was odd that Aussies sleep on chinese mattresses bought in a department store.

    I was pretty concerned about he scam accusations but then I re-read the posts and realised that the only people calling it a scam are those who didn't go to the presentation and/or those who are a bit thrifty (to whom everything is a scam).

    So, anyway, I'm going to consider being trained for the job and see what happens from there. I'm pretty fanatical about not endorsing anything I don't believe in so I'll be quitting if they preach that deadly dust mite crap. I'm hoping that the fear monger presenters are freestyling with their own brand of crap, like anywhere where there's rogue salesmen.

    I'll bookmark this blog and reply with an update if / when I get a job there to comment on my view of Wenatex's legitimacy. I hope they provide me with a free Wenatex bed :-)

    With the name and address thing, anyone with money can acquire your name and address from white pages on disc, or Australia Post (lifestyle survey) or even the electoral rolls.

    By Blogger David, at 11:37 AM  

  • todays date: 19th feb 2007, and guess what? these people Do get around, i live in a northern Sth Aust City and i just got home from the afore mentioned seminars. I took the males sales person to task over the mattresses, claiming that it was just a block of foam, so why so expensive?? yes we got all the crap about memory stuff etc etc ... material objects dont have a memory .. its what they're made of ... high density FOAM, or polymers. The slales LADY then tried to suggest to me that ..."you know when they dig the stuff out of the ground to process it, this company grabs it before it goes for processing, thus it is a organic mattress ... a load of crap, polymers are a bi-product of petroleum. the sales MAN then questioned me about what knowledge i had to make such a claim, i told him i had studied Mech. Eng. at UNI... you learn all about these manufacturing processes :) He then had the nerve to get the shits lol ... anyway, looked like good quailty stuff but waaayyy over priced .... look around before you buy!!!!

    By Blogger ronando_au, at 11:35 PM  

  • I just had a call from a young woman:
    "Are you coming to Woollaware Golf club for your free dinner and Wenatex" etc etc.
    Said I " What are you selling"
    "we are not selling, this is an opportunity to" blah blah.
    "Well, what is this all about?"
    ""You will finally be able to get a good sleep...'\" etc
    "I sleep very well now" said I
    She replied "Well why did you ask!!" hang up on me.
    Oh Boy, I would love to get my hands around her throat and guarantee her a good looong sleep!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:31 PM  

  • I might accept the invitation and just not turn up, in the hopes of preventing 2 people perhaps less astute than me from stumbling unwittingly into this hard sell situation.

    Although, I wouldn't want to take the food out of the mouths of a couple of povo uni students would I?

    By Anonymous L-ron, at 7:45 PM  

  • What a noble Knight L-ron is.

    Sir L-ron the Arrogant. Protector of the less astute...

    It's just a sales presentation for a friggin bed not a hypnosis session.

    Look into my eyes, not around the eyes, into the eyes. You must buy the bed, you will buy the bed, look into my eyes, one.. two.. three.. asleep. See, good bed eh.

    It's a bed. Not an intangible concept like timeshare or Nutrimetics. If people can't go to a sales thing without buying something they don't need, they've no business being out at night anyway.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:37 PM  

  • That may be so Lord Anonymous however i think the majority of people disapprove of the sales technique myself included.

    People obviously feel uncomfortable about saying no and feel under pressure to buy something they feel could be a bad investment. I think people ought to have the right to buy something reasonably free of pressure.

    By Blogger Trav, at 8:07 PM  

  • i also googled the company... interesting to note that wenatex is an ASIC deregistered company .... sounds like we should all steer clear.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:42 PM  

  • ASIC's website says;
    Wenatex Australia Pty Ltd ACN 100 195 551.
    Status: Registered
    Registered Office: Eagle Farm QLD

    Extracted from ASIC's database at AEST 21:11:53 on 19/03/2007

    Sounds like Captain Snooze is posting disinformation to stem the flow of customers away from their stores.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:22 PM  

  • I am curious...has anyone actually bought one of these beds - Alicia's comment was +ve recommending it to people who have bad posture etc..but do you own a Wenatex bed yourself? - I have great posture - I am simply interested in getting the best night sleep and looking after my spine the best way possible - I sleep great now on a waterbed (I have the heater on timer so I have no EMF from it at night).
    I went to the seminar - nothing scary - its just a simple presentation. can say no or yes - no pressure. Howver, the information makes logical sense.

    Are there any dissatisfied customers of the bed system? comments from satisfied customers would be good too

    TKs for all the input

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:36 PM  

  • I own a "Wenatex". Best night's sleeps continue. Made sure I got it in the property settlement. They're now sleeping on the cheap innerspring mattress. Food good too!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:08 PM  

  • Hi all,
    my partner and i went to one of their "free" dinners and ended up buying a mattress. I have had back and neck problems since a car accident a few years ago so my partner thought it would be a good investment. We listened to what they had to say and tried out the display mattress and decided it was legit. Boy were we wrong! The mattress feels nothing like the demo we tried, it is hard and uncomfortable, and i've had more back pain since using it (3 weeks), than i have had for the last six months!!! We contacted the company and were told that there was nothing they could do. Apparently we should've bought the whole sleep system ($$$$) for it to work properly. However on the night we were told that as long as we had a good quality slatted base we would be fine. I feel we were totally scammed. We have called the rep who sold it to us and left messages...but funny enough she hasn't bothered replying. We were fed misleading information and taken advantage of. I now have more back problems than ever, and am still paying the mattress off our credit card. We trusted this copany and they took total advantage of that. What adds to it is that because both my partner and i are uni students we are unable to buy a replacement mattress because there is no way we can afford it. I don't know what we're going to do, and that really scares me.

    By Anonymous Kate, at 12:41 PM  

  • 18 April, 2007, and the Wenatex ppl have come to Canberra. Actually, I think this might be the second letter they've sent me. I feel like I've seen one before and turfed it, about a year ago.

    I'm pretty disappointed in this company for purchasing electoral info, as this blogger found out. I think it might be my duty to turn up and take that meal off them as punishment. Yes, I will be doing my noble duty, which has nothing to do with the fact that I want free food >:)

    By Blogger elendil, at 7:15 PM  

  • Went to the "Seminar", was impressed with the mattress and did some further research. The "memory foam" it is made of is now made by a lot of companies, and mattresses made from it do seem to be better than inner spring mattresses for a lot of people, particularly those who are bed-ridden, or have back problems.

    Dunlop make a memory foam called "Visco-elastic" that I believe is used by a lot of Australian Mattress makers. I got one on an e-bay shop for $1,000. It's fine.

    I suggest you go to the "seminar" to decide whether you like the mattress. If you do, look for other "memory foam" mattresses to compare the price.

    Not much impressed with the arguments for the rest of their "sleep system".

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:26 AM  

  • Thanks for all your thoughts and opinions. My brother received the invitation and invited me to attend. I thought the sales rep was great at sending me to sleep and I was hoping he could record his voice so I use that as a sleep system. Look it's a great bed but shockingly over priced. I loved it when he told me it wasn't foam but some other crazy space name. It's frigging foam. I was waiting for him to tell me it was cholesterol free as well. Loved the meal but walked out when the contrascts were being handed out! cheers

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:18 PM  

  • 1/5/07
    Just got the invite and found this site in google.

    Heya Trav :D

    Well they've made it around to Perth lol. The thing is being held here for us http://www.ioh.com.au/frameset.php?id=162
    I'm going. Free food is always a big drawcard for me but salesmen are just the icing on the cake. They always make me laugh till I puke.
    Almost as funny are the ppl posting to this blog. OMG, how pathetic are you people?
    Do you sit around in your home and shake with fear cause some ad company gets your address? Are you afraid when the telemarketers ring? LOL! Get a fricken backbone!
    Go, eat, say no thanks. BFD.

    I'm there. Screw you pussies. :P

    By Anonymous EmbraceThePing, at 8:11 PM  

  • 7/5/07
    Wenatex has arrived in the Blue Mountains, Sydney. They say the dinner will be held in beautiful surroundings!! This is very funny because we all know the local bowling club is not fancy - I haven't had a decent meal there yet. Am going for a 'look see' tonight as a "guest" using a false identity so no follow up junk mail.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:53 AM  

  • I am very wary of any "invitation" which does not provide basic information about the product(s) or organisation.
    Years ago, some aquaintances kept pestering me to go to their home to learn about "an opportunity". They would not give any details. I went along (to get some peace)and found that there were about 30 other people who had also been invited as "special friends". They were trying to make a fortune by signing other people to be under them in the pyramid to sell Amway products. Some people were sucked in - largely because they felt guilty if they ate and drank the "friends" morning tea and said "no".
    I am not saying that these matresses are a bad product - but the "hook" panders to people's greed, curiosity, or guilt (maybe all three).
    Go if you have nothing better to do - but go with your eyes open.

    By Anonymous Blossom, at 8:18 PM  

  • I have not received an "invitation" as yet. Maybe they haven't got round to the hills areas of Perth?
    I am VERY happy with my soft-sided water-bed. It solved my back-problems and only cost about $350 for the bladder and heater (the type of bed-frame can cause the cost to range from cheap to over $1,000). The result you get depends on adjusting the water level so it is not too hard or too soft. I do not sell water-beds or any other type of bed - so I have no "axe to grind".
    Do your homework, try out many different types of beds, make sure they have good after-sales service, check with Consumer Affairs.
    Enjoy your meal - if you can't find anything more exciting on TV.

    By Anonymous Water-baby, at 8:44 PM  

  • This is translated from the Wenatex site (originally in German)-
    Wenatex song, Christmas 2003:
    Each night is full with my sleep problem.
    Each night tries I to bed to go.
    You and I, we buy now the sleep system,
    then we sleep so madly and beautifully.
    The Wenatex mattresses, those is beautiful.
    Sleep as on clouds makes nevertheless a sense.
    The Wenatex consultation is so marvelous.
    Everything which we need to make us clearly.
    Then legend I times again: Treasure I loves you.
    We love ourselves completely madly to to the daylight.
    Sleep problems are in the past.
    The Wenatex system freed us.
    The Wenatex mattresses, those is beautiful.
    Sleep as on clouds makes nevertheless a sense.
    The Wenatex consultation is so marvelous.
    Everything which we need to make us clearly.
    We slept well, rise lively.
    The sleep system has a sense (has a sense).
    The Wenatex mattresses, those is beautiful
    Sleep as on clouds makes nevertheless a sense.
    The Wenatex consultation is so marvelous.
    Everything which we pay we buy in bar.
    Everything which we pay we buy in bar.

    By Anonymous Julage, at 10:32 AM  

  • Hi all, I bought a bed off Wenatex. I have now had it for 6 months. I had bad back problems and some other health issues. Well i can tell you all now. The best sleep i have ever had. No more back problems. Some friends have tried the bed and had no breathing problems which proved to me how the mattress is dustmite proof. The bed is made in Austria and high quality. We have to also remember a lot of research is done and that costs money too. I was on health benefits when i got the bed and had gone to many bed stores to look for a bed. I find it amazing that most people that coment on this page do not know what they are saying and think that everyone is into a scam. I do not work for wenatex. People thinking food for free are cheap. Everything in life has a cost. You can buy a cheap car or you can get a better car for $100,000. Thanks for also proving the point that people that go to uni dont have to have a brain. Sorry to insult but what a bunch of uneducated people. Get your facts right and evidence it. Or shut the fuck up.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:13 PM  

  • Everyone's gotta a right to have their say here.

    There's nothing wrong about attending a wenatex function although i prefer to buy things through retail outlets.

    By Blogger Trav, at 10:08 AM  

  • lol, I can't believe it, I have just got my invite too, I am in Bendigo, but what disturbs me is that I suffer from sleep apnea and havn't been living here that long, so believe the only way that they could get my name and address is from someone in the medical profession, or the sellers of the machine that I use to sleep overnight. I am quite disturbed by all this, so obviously will not be attending and will be contacting my sleep doctor, GP and the medical equipment company to find out how this has happened. I also have a serious heart disease, and do not want my details given out to anyone, it is scary stuff.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:57 PM  

  • You idiots. They'd send out tens of thousands of invites every week. Of course some sleep apnea sufferers are going to get an invite sooner or later. Everybody will, sooner or later. I received an invite from TrendWest who do time-share. "I can't believe the girl I bought the camera from told TrendWest that I go on holidays from time to time! How could they have known that I own a passport, quick call the embassy". This blog should be re-named "World's Dumbest People".

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:45 PM  

  • I'm not sure everyone feels as comfortable as you do about people's information being passed around without consent

    Bendigo...top place, used to live there.

    By Blogger Trav, at 12:15 PM  

  • I just received an invite and was curious as to what it's all about.
    As I don't need new bedding I'll pass.
    Last year I bought a magnetic underlay and pillows from Aldi ( at about a quarter of the cost advertised elsewhere) and that really did improve the quality of our sleep.
    I figured if that didn't work I would not have wasted as much money as if regularly priced.
    Tania

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:53 PM  

  • Hey Water-Baby, its now made it to the Perth Hills I got my invite today. As for the electoral commission selling info, i have only been enrolled at my latest address for 9 months so they must be getting it from somewhere else if they have not been selling the electoral rolls since 2004. double inc 3 kids Kalamunda.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:10 PM  

  • Bought a full set bedroom suite. Need a decent mattress. this letter said good nite sleep. Looked sneaky. Googled it came to this site. Helped me make my mind. Not buying their product. My budget is around $6k-$8k for a good matress (latex some say) still researching for one if anyone got ideas. Oh i was a uni student one time. not still a old fart though :) but make enough money to quickly bypass free dinner offer. need to buy mattress only.

    By Anonymous Need To buy Decent Matress (but not from the Wenas listed here), at 8:49 PM  

  • Wow Trav - your Blog really has become the #1 site on this product/company (Wenatex) - they are now operating out of Bris! I don't really care how they got my address (it's out there) but I really agree with some that it all sounds so "sneaky"... Why not just say we are selling high quality bedding - come along if you are interested and by the way we will feed you? Is that tooooooo simplistic?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:19 PM  

  • I would agree with a more simplistic, less sneaky approach too. I bought a wenatex mattress system on the night and we're totally stoked with it but I couldn't help wondering why they had to lure me there with subterfuge when they've clearly got the best mattresses. It's weird.

    We had a really good night but it took me half an hour to relax and enjoy it. I wondered if the saleslady even agreed with the way they got the customers there.

    It is pricey but we'd been looking for a while and that's what the really good ones cost in the shops. It fixed my back so it was worth twice what I paid, to me anyway. I think they got my details from the phone book, like everybody else.

    By Anonymous Kevin, at 8:55 AM  

  • 28/06/07
    Went to the free dinner at the High Road Hotel, Riverton (Perth) on Tuesday night. Due to this blog and others like it, my friends and I were already well aware of what to expect but it still didn't help us to maintain straight faces throughout the presentation. Especially when we were (solemnly) informed that the herbs in the special herbal lining had to be "picked at the right phase of the moon" in order to maximise their value.

    The food was pretty good, we got our free gift (wool wash) without having to give out our addresses, the 'hard sell' wasn't all that hard and the 'sleep system' actually looked quite decent. However, $6,694 for a mattress, doona and 2 pillows (before the one-night-only 25% discount) is just way too pricey.

    All in all, we enjoyed ourselves. If you're capable of saying 'no' to things that you don't want/need, then I'd recommend going for the free dinner :P

    By Blogger steph, at 3:38 PM  

  • thanks to this site Ill be staying home this is the second time i have recived an invitaion sounds like rubbish thanks heaps

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:17 AM  

  • I went and Id go again!
    I got the letter in the post and couldnt be bothered booking it in, but when the girl rang to confirm me, It didnt take any extra effort to say yes (instead of no) so I booked in.

    The food was fine, venue was freshly renovated (maid & magpie in SA) and there was no pressure.

    Having been in sales a long time myself, I actualy thought the salesrep - bruce - could have been more persistant, and he probably lost a sale or two because he wasnt.

    All in all, my sumary was the product seemed well made and probably simarly priced to other similar high end mattress and bedding problems Ive seen, and if your looking at spending that money on a matress already then this one is as good as any.
    some good points were made, along with a few pointless ones and the occasional innacurate or distortion of the truth but nothing major.

    Would I / did I buy? hell no! I have a queen spring ensemble I paid $800 fore less than 3 yrs ago which is extreemly comfy. and I like my 5 pillows which the bloke said was not good for my posture.

    Either way its not a scam, it was worth the free meal gift, and spirits, and even had low level entertainment value.

    Ill be reffering all my friends for the $10 petrol voucher per person, and Ill even go allong with them for another free meal!

    By Anonymous robbo_yobbo, at 11:23 PM  

  • Hi all, I agree with Anonymous 5:13 pm....there are a lot of STUPID people out there with lots of STUPID comments. Yes my partner and I went to the free dinner and yes it was good and the sales reps knew their product very well and spoke very well and certainly convinced us! We have had back and neck problems for many years and did not want to spend lots on beds but realised we were kidding ourselves. So they arrive next Tuesday! I realise it may take a while to get used and after spending so much money I really hope it fulfills my expectations. Some people want cheap things others are prepared to pay for the best in necessities. Go to the seminar and enjoy the meal with an open mind. You DONT have to buy but please dont make stupid comments. Thank goodness we are not all the same!!!!!

    By Anonymous JoJohn, at 7:31 PM  

  • We went to the free dinner 10 days ago and yesterday took ownership of our Wenatex sleep system. I had an awesome nights sleep last night. Hubby had the worst night ever. Unfortunately he has recently had back surgery and has spent on average 16 hours a day lying in our old innerspring which may now take a while to get rid of the kinks. The food was good too.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:22 PM  

  • Wow can't believe all the negative comments of people who have never really checked out the price of good quality bedding or even been to a presentation. Go and do some research of good quality bedding attend one of their presentation, enjoy the free dinner and then make up a more informed mind.

    No hard sell, out of the 12 people that were there we were the only ones to purchase any thing, we bought mattress pillows and blanket set, consider what similar type products are priced in retail shops the price was not that different.

    Will post more comments after we have used the products for sometime - Penrith

    By Blogger Rolf, at 2:50 PM  

  • 9 August 2007, They've made it over the ditch. Invite is to a pretty average place in Mission Bay, Auckland. Look oyt for your invites soon...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:02 PM  

  • "It is a very good thing to have a built-in bullshit detector, but a bad thing when the bullshit detector crowds out the rest of your brain; that's why they call it being narrow-minded. You quickly reach the stage where anything ambitious, complicated, or merely foreign gets spat on along with the things that are genuinely phony." (Adam Gopnik)

    Do your research and don't confuse your cynicism with your naivety.

    By the way, they're nice beds. I bought one for my wife and I and two singles for our children.

    By Anonymous Adam, at 7:23 PM  

  • They are in NZ now! Got an invite, to the Papakura RSA. Would like to know where they are getting their database from...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:06 PM  

  • Consumers seem to be split on this issue of data. If an offer is particularly relevant to them, they are more interested in hearing about it from the marketer. However, they remain concerned about the extent of the information that the marketer keeps about them. I feel that consumers believe database marketers have significantly more information about them in their databases than they actually do.

    There is an elusive demarcation line between database marketing and invasion of privacy. But where is it? How far can they go before they stumble over the privacy trip-wire and infuriate, rather than motivate their prospects?

    I'd say wenatex has perplexed most prospects and infuriated a few.

    In reality, they probably got your name and address straight out of the phone book on CD ROM. Yes, to them you are just data

    By Anonymous 1100110010110, at 10:01 PM  

  • will this bedding system take me to the bed as well. I tend to fall asleep on the lounge alot...
    I live in Perth and have just received my invite. Great blog for information on the unknown company.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:42 PM  

  • Its amazing how the internet works so brilliantly at times. My wife and I just attended the seminar in brisbane. The lady looked like the mother from the patridge family! I noticed a few weird things, such as one of the attendees had attended last weeks seminar, why go to the same seminar twice in a week and the sales lady actually addressing this out loud to everyone else, not a good sales technique to my opinion. To sum it up, my wife and I are in need of a new mattress, however havent had time to look. We found the facts presented were useful and at the end of seminar we were going to purchase, but we thought lets see what is out there. The sales lady said I can hold this special one night price to friday which is tomorrow, secondly we asked about the monthly payment plan, the sales lady and her assistant had an argument on working out the monthly payments and deposits, little embarassing. We will say no for a few reasons, one it only offers a 5yr guarantee, why? The sales lady says this mattress last for 20yrs! and she stated why should this bother your decision on purchasing! hello! Once we said we will hold off you could see her facial expression and body language change dramatically, it was look ok fine, we will see you later and contact you in a few days on your decision!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:33 PM  

  • Thanks to everyone for the pros and cons of wenatex. My Roleystone (Perth) invitation is now in the recycle bin. Cheers!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:12 PM  

  • My boyfriend got the invite, so I said I'd google it for him... Firstly, LOL! Thanks for an entertaining read. Secondly, the jury is still out on whether we'll go - he suffers from disruptive sleep patterns, but we've just started down the path of considering noise etc. and getting double glazed windows. Who knows though, maybe we'll get sold on a Wenatex mattress... the current one does tend to dip into the middle.

    By Blogger T Austin &, at 5:51 PM  

  • 20 Sept 2007
    I too have Googled "Wenatex" after receiving an invite and come up with this blog - all interesting reading to say the least. As for the huge price tag of this system check out part of the job description for a Wenatex Sales Presenter (on mycareer.com)that also came up in my search results:

    "TOP DOLLARS, TRAINING AND CONTINUOUS SUPPORT
    Wenatex takes care of the venues and guests attendance. You just need to follow our seminar script, be yourself and enjoy the time you spend over dinner with your guests. This European sales technique has long been a proven winner – and you will be too! Just look at our current top performers, all earning between $100,000 and $150,000 per annum."

    No wonder it's so expensive - not the product you're paying for I suspect, must be the huge commissions they get!!??

    By Anonymous Lisa, at 6:42 PM  

  • My partner attended a free dinner this evening (too early for me to get there, plus I hate sales things like this).

    We bought a Tempur mattress just over a year ago, albeit it's at her house and I have a normal $1K inner-spring mattress, so only get to sleep on it on weekends.

    I'm a shocking sleeper, and in my bed after 1+ hours of always trying to get to sleep I frequently toss and turn and when I wake I’m drowsy and take 2-3 hours to actually feel as if I’ve woken up, plus frequent sore backs. Not to mention I constantly wake her up with all the movement. However when sleeping on the Tempur mattress I go to sleep easy, barely move, will sleep through anything and wake-up refreshed. Oh and even if I do move it won’t bother her. So memory foam mattresses do work.

    We recently decided that i should get a Tempur as well, and then this Wenatex invite comes along. As a complete system it's actually reasonably priced (Tempur was $3.5K for just the mattress on an existing slat base and $200 for the pillows. So even without the dinner I'm interested. Pity i can’t buy one from a ‘bedding specialist’ store.

    But what I’d like to know, has anyone managed to haggle with them on price? I haven’t tried the cheaper memory foam mattresses now available (like the Dunlop made one), but I’m sure makers such as Tempur and Wenatex are making huge profits on a sale.

    Also anyone saying they have bad backs sleeping on memory foam mattresses, from my experience and being forewarned by the Tempur rep, they can take a few weeks to adjust too, and will be harder to start off with than the demo you tried in the store, or in this case at the dinner. But yep best sleep I’ve ever had, and really what price can you put on quality sleep.

    Cheers.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:49 AM  

  • My Wenatex sleep system arrives tomorrow. I'll post a follow up in a week or two to report on it's performance. For the record, those who have shopped around for quality European beds will know that the Wenatex is right on the money. We've done our research (more than most sane people) and I chose Wenatex above the others. We'll know in a couple of weeks if it was the right decision for me.

    Stay tuned.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:29 PM  

  • OK, two nights in and I can report that the bed is so far living up to the claims. Firstly the bedroom smells lovely thanks to the herbal inlay. The bed is not cold when I get in it either and the doona is light yet warm. My wife reports having no pain in her shoulder which has 7 screws and a plate which was giving her lots of trouble until now. Our bed is an IKEA with the fancy slats. They seemed to be doubling up on the job that the Wenatex mattress is supposed to do so I made them as neutral as possible. I am sleeping better and partner disturbance is now zero. Our old bed bounced me out every time one of us got up to the baby.

    The mattress is still breaking me in and I'm feeling some lower back pain when I get up that goes away after a few minutes. I used to wake up with dreadful neck pain and pain in my upper back. That's gone now. My standard breakfast used to be painkillers. Two days in a row waking up without pain is a bit of a revelation.

    So far it's brilliant. Stay tuned for more updates.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:18 AM  

  • So we must be a couple of weeks in now. I love the bed, my wife loves the bed and unfortunetly, my 3 year old daughter loves the bed from about 5am onwards. This morning, about 5:45, she woke up with a start from having wet the bed. Our bed. We quickly whipped off the sheet, unzipped the cover and found that none had passed through the gore-tex-ish liner. We bunged the cover in the washing machine like they said, washed it in hot water and hung it out. By 10am it was dry and back on the bed, as good as new. That'll do me. Worth it's weight in gold I reckon. So that's my two bob's worth. Say what you like about the sales process, the mattress is a gem. We're extremely glad we bought it. (Doona and pillows too, magic)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:17 PM  

  • They finally got to NZ. Got my invite 1st thing I did was google it. Now that I know what it is, I'm inviting everyone. Kiwi's have no guilt about eating for free. wenatex might want to rethink their strategy for Godzone.

    By Anonymous Leigh, at 2:40 PM  

  • Auckladn NZ here and we just got the same invitation - have read through all the comments and dont think we'll go to th elocal cheap pokies place either - thanks for all the comments above - interesting reading

    By Anonymous Charli, at 3:23 PM  

  • 15 January 2008, Wenatex has arrived in the Adelaide Hills. Glad I found this blog - it's an interesting read. I am really peeved that they got my address - I don't give it out readily so I'm going to have to do some hunting. I don't need a new bed so not much point in going. Think I'll repackage the letter together with a house brick and "return to sender" - no postage of course.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:23 PM  

  • Just checked out eBay. There is a Wenatex mattress for sale for $950
    (eBay Item number: 300190598703). Has a photo too. Seems a lot of money for a mattress to me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:38 PM  

  • 16 January 2008... well it has now hit the Dapto Dogs. we have been invited to these type of things before (for selling on the internet) not to a venatex seminar which included a free dinner and a gift and we didn't buy anything those times either. the meal was ok and we got diary/planners which we did use. So we are going and it can be interesting to find out info. if you dont have a strong will... leave your money and credit cards at home that way even if you are tempted to buy you cant.

    so there is nothing to worry about if you dont have a partner bring a friend, be a bit bored by the sales pitch have a good feed and then bring home a free gift. if you dont like the gift give it away for a birthday or xmas present... who know you may just enjoy yourself.

    thanx
    Kate

    By Blogger gothic_witch, at 12:58 AM  

  • Sleep? What about sex? Is it any good for my favourite activity?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:18 AM  

  • Forget the mattress, all the above blogs are enough to put you to sleep. Now has reached the Bay Of Plenty in New Zealand.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:46 PM  

  • What you do is book yourself and partner in, and don't show up...Take that scamers
    Has hit Auckland NZ now!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:03 PM  

  • 12th Feb 2008:
    Well I got my letter today, immediately thought 'bogus scam' and did the same as most people - googled Wenatex. Interesting to read the blog, and also to note that in over a year, they still do not have an Australian Website (coming early 2008). Bet they said the same thing 1 year ago. Funny that they don't list any Australian offices on their webpage either. My conclusion is that my instinct is correct, and I pity the poor people who are none the wiser. Goodluck Wenatex. Another West Aussie.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:49 PM  

  • Hi
    have a look at the original Austrian web site it is avalible in english too if you do not understand german. we`ve been to the presentation and complimenraty dinner it`s just a thank you for your time and what a way of marketing ...... every dinner another 20 people know that wenatex exists..... we`ve got one and it`s great..... i have had back problems... now I can wake up and go. when ypu see it delivered to you home you can tell it`s from Austria. Not everything is NZ is a scam :-)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:37 PM  

  • I have restless legs syndrome and get a good nights sleep about once a year. There is no magic cure for RLS so I was immediately suspicious when I got my vaguely worded invitation. Before throwing it away I decided to see what it was they were really selling. Now that I know, the invitation is in the recycling bin.
    The web is really great for finding out the inside story!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:45 AM  

  • 26 January 08: Went to wenatex dinner at Poenamo Tavern North Shore NZ tonite. Didn't do any research before hand as my sister got the invite and i was only going along for the food and maybe learn something.

    Reasonably good venue in one of small conference rooms, reasonably good meal (for free), just water to drink, free gift was 250ml wenatex brand fibre detergent and 50ml tube pedimol 55 massage balm.

    No hard sell here, ( i hate pushy salespeople ), just lotsa info on bedbugs, allergies, asthma, posture importance etc. Knew alot about that stuff already.

    Product appears to be very good quality, washable good bonus i thought and adjustable pillow good idea too.

    Had done some research about 2 years ago on good quality beds and was expecting high price what with the free food and educational course so wasn't surprised by price. Anyway ended up buying a pillow and summer duvet (doona to you aussies). Got my sisters new bed when i moved into family home after mum died and sis moved into master bedroom and bought herself a new double so don't need a new mattress just now.

    Read every post on this product before this. Seems most objectors are just cynical. Mind you, depends on who gave the seminar i suppose. You also have to take into account that these people probably work on commission and having to make a sale to get paid can make some people pretty desperate. So they can get cranky when someone pipes up and and puts off all the other punters and calls it all B.S.

    Since i haven't done enough research to comment on technology side of it i won't bother to leave my opinion, i will however save this to favourites and let you all know it a few weeks about pillow and duvet and maybe i'll get round to some mattress research as well.

    Also, i don't really care where they got my sisters info, we all get junk and spam, so what else is new? One thing though, i made sure i grabbed the forms we filled out on our sleeping problems as we left. Gilbert.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:18 PM  

  • oops, sorry, last post should have read 26 February. Where has the year gone! Gilbert.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:58 PM  

  • I went along to one of these dinners with a friend of mine last night. We ate battered fish and chips and sipped iced water, which was promptly topped up after each sip. I'm presuming it was drugged!

    The presenter deserved an oscar for his performance! I simply could not believe how obviously over the top he was as a sales man...I was so close to cracking up for part of the night. He went on and on and ON. The presentation alone finished after 10pm. 6 of the 16 people there walked out straight after the dinner, which I found hilarious.

    The mattress and doonah etc seems comfy and all that, but SO over priced and their sales tactics are terrible. The 78yr old german man sitting next to me (and his wife of over 50yrs) went totally OFF when the sales man tried to pressure him into signing on the spot. They seemed like such a sweet, vulnerable couple and I felt really sorry for them.

    To David's earlier post...yes, they DO teach that "deadly dust mite crap" Also, David, there is nothing wrong with being "thrifty". My husband and I both work part-time whilst studying at Uni and are only able to put our 2 daughters through private school because we are thrifty and I totally objected to the sales man insinuating that I had my priorities all wrong because I wasn't interested in spending over a months wage (at least) for my "health". My $600 mattress has been great and only needs replacing now, after 9 years!

    Go, if you want a laugh, or if you really want a (very average) free meal...but NOT if you have a backbone or find this intimidating kind of salesmanship WRONG!!!

    By Blogger Nursenatti, at 2:39 PM  

  • .......and NOW..... its in New Zealand

    ....... and.... yes it's at the local casino hotel.

    Thanks for the blog guys and gals, I am now informed enough to decide whether I want or need to attend.

    The answer is no. I have a perfectly comfy bed here at home.

    ........ and no... I do not work for Wenatex despite being anonymous, I am just not a Google member

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:37 AM  

  • THESE TYPES OF SALES PITCHES WILL NOT WASH WITH ME...i HAVE BEEN IN THE BEDDING BUSINESS FOR YEARS AS AGENTS FOR CUTTING EDGE PRODUCT INCLUDING SOPHISTICATED ELECTRIC SUPPORT FRAMES/TEMPUR OF ALL OPTIONS...AND OVERLAYS! WE ALSO SPECIALIZE IN MATTRESS PROTECTION TO OFFER PERSPIRATION, BEDWETTING, DUSTMITE PROTECTION AS THIN AS A SHEET... CAN BE WASHED IN BOILING WATER AND HAVE A 5 YR MATTRESS GUARANTEE...WE RECEIVED AN INVITE BUT EVERYTHING I HAVE READ ABOUT WENATEX INDICATES NOTHING REALLY INOVATIVE OR NEW TO ME...HAVE BEEN DEALING IN LIKE PRODUCTS IN NZ SINCE LATE 2003...ALSO FROM SCANDINAVIA AND EUROPE! DONT BE FOOLED...THIS IS ABOUT PRESSURE SELLING IN AN EVIRONMENT WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF HYPE AND REALLY ISNT JUST ANOTHER fRANCHISOR MAKING A KILLING?...TAKE YOUR FREE DINNER BUT SAY NO...YOU SHOULD BE ABLE ACCESS GOOD AND SIMILAR PRODUCT AT YOUR LEISURE IN THE MARKETPLACE...THIS REMINDS ME SOMEWHAT OF THE TIMESHARE SALES EVENINGS OF THE 1980S AND 1990S...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:25 PM  

  • I suffer from a lot of back pain due to a car accident when I was a child. When it happened I was in pain for a while but after I healed I had very little trouble until I was 15 and my muscles started to develop, I started getting a lot of lower back pain and have suffered with it ever since. That is until recently when I stumbled across memory foam mattresses. They adjust to the shape and weight of my body to support my back perfectly and let me sleep soundly. I can’t even imagine being able to sleep without my memory foam mattress anymore!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:38 AM  

  • just got my invite.......in perth hills. Amaxing what a free dinner and gift will do! At least can go alone with a frend. Unlike time share thing which insisted on a noahas ark type audiance- although after nagging of partner and a 2 hour high pressure sales lecture i did get my $25 margaretriver hotel voucher. Is it wort it though?

    By Blogger sam, at 1:40 PM  

  • Hi, I'm an American living in New Zealand so I'll give you a bit of a different perspective.

    First and most important, the main reason I am googling and finding this thread is to find out if the meal is any good. If it isn't why bother with even thinking about this company? LOL SO I'd like to ask that from now on everybody report what they ate and give it a rating, after all, if they are luring with a meal it should be decent. One poster mentioned she had "spirits"! Does that mean they have poured wine or beer for anyone? I'd like to know, wouldn't you?

    Next, the free gift should be named in every post! c'mon. I expected it to be something really crappy like a glossy full color mattress brochure, or a Wenetex poster suitable for framing. But apparently someone got massage oil and another got wool wash, whatever that is. What is that? Please be specific about your gifts, it'll be more fun to read your posts.

    As far as feeling violated about being contacted - you have no idea how lucky you are. Americans are violated so continuously in this manner than no one even thinks twice about it anymore. On the upside, we get invited to three day weekends in resort hotels, with the presentation being just an hour and a half sales pitch. I've done it a couple of times and it was definitely worth it! They do their best with these, but you can just politely say no, especially if you can't afford it.
    My husband and I sleep great, and we love our mattress that I bought 20 years ago in LA. A good mattress just gets better with age, in my opinion. But I'll go just because I can extract amusement out of just about anything, and I don't eat out very often. I'm actually looking forward to being shown a big creepy picture of a mite by my hosts while they serve me dinner, what a weird experience. If the meal or gift is crappy, you'll hear about it here!

    By Blogger Helen, at 10:35 AM  

  • Is there any chance that this is a sting for unpaid parking fines or speeding fines as they do in Yank land sometimes...... I wont be going just in case...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:51 PM  

  • My wife and went to the presentation tonight and we thought it looked and felt like a wonderful bed. Expensive, yes, but what is a really good nights sleep worth? How many times have you woken in the morning and really needed another hour or two to really wake up. Heck, we spend a third of our lives in bed - we deserve the best. It would be nice if more people posted to this blog with comments a month or two after purchasing such a bedding system.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:49 PM  

  • 23rd April '08 - Wenatex have made it to the (almost) deep south of Otago, NZ. Been having a wee look at this Wenatex system as a friend attended the seminar.

    They were thoroughly impressed by the pitch the sales guy gave, but in dicussions wth myself more than raving on about the bed, they talked more than mainly about the whole dustmite situation. It almost appears as though the sales person was focusing mainly in on the fear of dustmites 'infesting' your home rather than the quality of the sleep system.

    Surprise! Dustmites are EVERYWHERE!! Curtains, carpet, bedding, lounge suites, probably even dusty surfaces! Don't let the scare tactics convince you.

    All this prompted my interest so I did some research. (I like researching random things for friends - sad I know, but beds are an important purchase!) and came up with the following:

    If dustmites are an issue.. there's two EASY solutions. For bedding, but dustmite proof protectors. There are brands around which are as thin as a sheet, and provide mattress and pillow protectors and even dustmite proof DUVET covers! RRP of a mattress protector is about NZ$110 (Queen size) NZ$25 for a pillow protector. And they are moisture (i.e. sweat body fluids etc) proof so also protect the longevity of your bed. Probably even minimise the incidence of dustmites in an old mattress/pillows. & they are promoted as breathable and apparently don't affect how the bed feels unlike quilted protectors. You can find these at bed retailers and good linen stores. Just go for a good brand. Easy!

    Also for those really worried about carpets and curtains etc, buy a dehumidifier cause on the info I've been reading, the wee mites can't florish in locations of low humidity (due to them having a high water content), plus its better for your health!

    RE: the support system, there are plenty of beds that come below the NZ$6k (approx) price tag offered by Wenatex. Tempur appears to be one of the leading mem foam companies and a queen mattress is about $3800, cheap slat frames can be less than a grand, probably cheaper. Top of the line spring mattresses from $2500.. (of course you can get the nearly $10k models too!) from NEW ZEALAND MADE manufacturers and NZ OWNED retailers. Australia is probably similar with range & price.

    My advice is DON'T commit on the night, shop around your local stores, then decide. In Otago (for e.g.) memory foam is tricky cause the cooler temperatures cause it to be firmer, and many memory foam companies recommend NOT using an electric blanket or wool underlay. Brrr!!!

    Buy a bed you LOVE - its yours for at least 10 years - not one a salesperson pushes on you. Check out the choices available.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:17 AM  

  • This blog contains more information than the Wenatex website!! They have an aussie site now.

    By Anonymous Bob Jones, at 8:23 AM  

  • Dear Helen, Wife and I went to presentation at local RSL club , clayton, melbourne,vic, The meal was very good, steak for me, stir fry chicken for Wife,I checked in bistro, they do a seniors meal,us, for 2 courses, $10 ,we only had the main,the gifts were as described, washing and massage oils,so I think if you dont mind 3 hrs of very obtuse facts ,such as how these beds can do miracles with every injury and illness known to mankind! which can never be proven! You may have a good time questioning these so called facts with the presenters ,in our case were avery likeable young couple.Many of the commentors seem to not possess the ability to say NO! If They can, enjoy the meal!

    By Blogger wonderment, at 12:43 AM  

  • 28 April '08 Hi, i posted a blog which i dated 26 Jan '08 (but shuld have read 26 Feb) Anyway, i got my pillow and duvet and they are great.

    My sister tells me that since i started using the pillow i have stopped snoring. (she gets up b4 me and used to hear me evry morning)

    The duvet keeps me at the same temperature all night even though the autumn chill has started here in Auckland.

    I even took both of them with me when i stayed with friends on Waiheke Island i love them so much. After telling them why i'd brought my own bedding (they always supply it for me) my mates missus asked if she could try the pillow since she'd been waking with a sore neck. She didn't want to give it back!

    The 2 nights she used the pillow resulted in me waking a bit cranky and tired the next mornings. Now i know it works.

    Back in Auckland my sister tried the pillow and said it was better than hers as well. I tried her 'Peace Pillow' ($98)that she had bought while i was away and it was ok but the wrong size for me (a little too high off the bed for my neck) which shows the Wenatex secret is the 'adjustable' part of the pillow.

    Telling other people about these things means that now 4 of my friends want me to order a pillow for them (because i have the wenatex discount 'certificate')

    I've been slack and not done any mattress research but i see from the latest blogs that others have. Maybe the Tempura and 'memory foam' matresses are just as good so look forward to some more reviews on that.

    And maybe someone (else, not slack me of course) should do some duvet research as well. But i reckon the pillows are great! Gilbert, NZ

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:27 PM  

  • Just got back from presentation in Hamilton. It was OK.. the presenter was good and no hard sell. Meal was OK but certainly not great, just a main served with water and coffee after. I was impressed with the bed system but would not consider it at that price (even a single pillow was $240!)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:38 PM  

  • Hi, all..
    I'm a Wenatex "Sleep consultant"..I am anonymous...because I know my bosses, sate side and national will read blogs and I wish to speak freely.
    I have would like to consider myself honest an a man of my word. I have been in sales for many years, ranging from Door 2 door to Advertising and have seen my fair share or major Corporate companies rort the average Joe, I can Honestly say I have never worked for such an ethical company such as Wenatex. I can challenge any detractors to come to one of my seminars and will feel welcome and relaxed and not pressured in any way! As for my fellow colleagues around the world, I cant speak for them, but when you have doctors,chiropractors, nurses and naturapaths who present at these presentations, its a little insulting when people say its a scam. If you have a concern call Head office and speak to the resident GP. Dr Juan Semo. His role is to speak to other Health Professionals, When there are over 1500+ G.P.s who are now affiliated JUST HERE IN AUS. Go to the warehouse/office in each state...see for yourself.
    Will be happy to chat about any queries.
    Plus the lady with the issue with her bed, and wasn't happy, ring head office again...I have worked for Wenatex for years and my clients, never had any dramas, apart from turning the bed upside down. Make sure the Tempurex Zones are aways ON Top!! I flipped my accidentally when I moved house and didnt realize for 3 weeks and wondered why my back was hurting.
    Just To clear, another point, In Europe there is no Guarantee on the mattress just like a Mercedes, you are buying a top of the line Orthopedic and homeopathic sleep system. Anyways, love to all, and hope to say hi to you at one of y seminars, been doing it a while and love to meet new people and hopefully help a few in the process.

    Plus in regards to our pay..I wish I was earning 150k a year..lol...as with most jobs, its OTE. So lets be realistic guys.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:11 AM  

  • Interesting to see how busy wetanex has been - ON THIS BLOG!
    Went to a "presentation" given by a guy who was a teacher (it showed, right down to him asking questions like the attendees were schoolkids, and commending them for getting answers "right")
    The food was crap, it was uncomfortable sitting there for over two hours and the products are way over-priced.
    We've seen this before: Amway, Enjo, etc ... there's always a new, must-have product, endorsed by the zealots who push it. It's like a freaking religion.
    Do shop around. Consider how expensive those enjo products are, yet you can now buy the same stuff in supermarkets: various textiles that clean without the use of chemicals.
    Naturally people who make a living off this stuff have to find a new product to push.
    The people who did the presentation were lovely, even if the guy was over the top and acting like he'd just taken a tony robbins training seminar.
    I didn't like how fake he was. I hated the name tags, and the way they try to reel you in, personally.
    The scare tactics were ridiculous. As someone said, dust mites are all over your place! You have bacteria crawling all over you as you read this, feeding off dead skin etc.
    Also agree with the person who said that it is suss to buy from a seminar and not from retail: they don't want you to think about your purchase, which is why you're a captive audience, and then they offer a discount for that night only etc, etc. They are relying on impulse buying to make money.
    And the people who walk out as soon as the presentation is over? Well if you bought a sleep system, you paid for their dinner. congratulations.
    I don't think their stuff is crap, but it's overly pricey, the sales people are zealots, and it's a shitty way to sell stuff.
    btw, if being aware of all the ways of pitching sales and ripping people off is being cynical then I'll happily be a cynic (oh and no matter how much money one has, it pays to spend it wisely; it's not miserly, just common sense).
    ;)
    I should add that there were a few very intelligent questions that people asked, which the guy was incapable of answering.
    Too funny!
    Be wary about the so-called "science" behind the sleep system; it's full of holes.
    About medical professionals endorsing the products, so what? Do you think doctors have some unique form of wisdom? Look at some of the stuff cosmetic surgeons do - they do it for money, not to help people. They're out to make a living too; don't be duped into thinnking that they're wiser than anyone else, or that they have outstanding morals.
    Don't impulse-by
    Shop around
    Treat yourself to a proper night out, rather than going for a "free" meal with more strings attached than an army of marionettes.
    The free "gift" simply is not worth twenty dollars, and certainly not worth handing over your personal details for.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:14 PM  

  • Hi All,

    I have done the wenatex presenters course but never became a presenter, I also did a lot of research on mattresses. The bottom line is this:

    Their pillow is the best pillow you can buy period, I know of nothing else as good and it is machine washable.

    Duna is also excellent it also is machine washable. It also is expensive.

    Mattress, this is also an excellent product but when comparing it to other products it is overpriced.

    It is better than a standard memoryfoam mattress as it is a hybrid and only uses memoryfoam in certain areas. Pure memory foam mattresses have their own issues which is why they did not make it all out of memoryfoam.

    If you are looking for the best alternative that is cost effective go for a pure latex mattress, get one that is at least 6" thick. The only negative with them is that they are heavy.

    If I had the money though I would just buy the Wenatex bed, why, because you can flip the mattress over with two fingers and it is easy to transport if you move and has all the benefits of the latex mattress. Plus the cover just unzips and is machine washable as well.

    So if you can easily afford it I say get it even though it is overpriced. If you are price sensitive get a latex mattress like I did, they are just as good.

    By Anonymous Alan Meier, at 2:41 AM  

  • Hi all, my husband and i went to a wenatex dinner with no idea we would buy a new bed.Waiting for delivery!! Dinner was good,i had fish chips and salad, my husband had chicken kiev chips and salad.Gifts were herbal balsam and a dream book and both are good too.Presentation was informative and relaxed, no pressure.We bought the package because we think its worth it to our health and comfort.I also love the idea that you can wash everything, more hygenic than what we got.
    If you get an invite, go ,you might enjoy it if not you havent lost anything.
    Rach

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:45 AM  

  • Have just returned home from a Wenatex presentation and can't wait for the delivery of my sons bed. I got a 40% discount for buying a demonstrators model. There was no high pressure sales, people either bought or they didn't. The guy didn't get annoyed with anyone for not buying he just showed us what it was about and the rest was up to us. If it works that's great and I will eventualy buy a bed for myself and husband and one for my daughter if not my son got a new bed and we won't purchase another one. I had no idea what I was going to see as I was invited by a friend for a free meal and a chat about sleep, figured they had to be trying to sell something but had no idea what. I do not work or have any association with this company other than having just purchased one of their products. Why are people so afraid of things. You always have the option of saying no so how can you get hurt.

    By Anonymous Carol, at 11:08 PM  

  • Well, we went to one of these presentations . My husband wanted a new bed.ours is 15 yrs old but I've never had a problem with it...no aches or pains in back etc.
    After one week on it I woke with back ache each morning. No courtesy calls to ask how we like it etc. Just post outs offering $10 petrol voucher if we send someone to a presentation!!!!!. That's the after sales service you get for $4000.00 DONT BUY A WENATEX BED !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:18 PM  

  • Quick summary on our experience (so far):
    Went to the free meal with my wife and parents. The food was average.
    The sales pitch was informative. Didn’t get the scare tactics that some have referred to. No pressure from the salesman.
    Tried the bed, pillow and comforter. Was really impressed with the comforter and pillow. Wife and parents liked the bed.
    Decided to order a queen mattress, both comforters and two pillows.
    Asked for an extra discount. Got an extra $150 off (total a little under $5K).
    Received the mattress today, can’t wait to try it out.
    If it’s a good experience, we’ll buy one for mum and dad.
    If it’s a bad experience, we’ll be posting on this website and many more.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:49 PM  

  • I'm with the one above who now has backache. This bed is so overrated in presentation. I've never had so much broken sleep since we wasted our hard earned money on one. YES..no after sales service courtesy calls whatsoever. Maybe we need to name presenter

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:15 PM  

  • Just got an invite and googled it - and WOW, what a highly-entertaining blog! I think I'll go along to the presentation for the free meal and to have a laugh at the "presentation".

    One thing about this blog that strikes me is that either loads of the posts are from Wenatex themselves, or a LOT of people have been sucked in to buy a ridiculously overpriced product with no scientific support. If the latter is true, then the Wenatex sales technique is working superbly well!

    As long as there are suckers around, there will be others who will exploit them for a nice profit!

    By OpenID wotscool_bull, at 9:25 AM  

  • Received an invitation today. I'm in Canberra. I'm just not that desperate for a free meal. It's a shame their are obviously enough hungry and gullible people around to make it worth their while to use this sort of sales technique.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:42 PM  

  • The fact that they're not prepared to tell you what they're selling, except in the vaguest possible of terms, suggest they're not very confident in their product's ability to stand up without the pressure sales pitch.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:01 PM  

  • hello all, I have just recived my invite this is my story. ok I had a restaurent in sydney and was called about having a function for 60 people on 5 nights and 2 lunches as these nights were our slowest nights i aggreed. The deal was to provide a 2 course meal for which i would recive AU$23 per head, guests would pay for drinks them selves. this was a good earn for us 60 people times 7 sittings do the math. we served the guests meals better than $23 per head, my thinking was these are local people and some will come back. it was very very very hard to get any deposit for the function, when the week was over i sent the invoice 30 days latter no cheque rang it will be sent soon..... cheque never arrived. some of my customers recived invites and attended the function bought some stuff and were not happy with the goods and attude of sales people. ALL I CAN SAY GO HAVE THE FREE MEAL ENJOY YOURSELF AND SAY NO NO NO NO NO NO NO michael

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:51 PM  

  • Im a uni student so how could i say no to a good free meal :p Took my gf along with me and it was kinda funny because noone else turned up, just me my gf and the sales guy.

    Dinner was good, the presentation took half as long and i got a good chance to demo the bed. I must say I was quite impressed by 2k is alot of money to part with, i know bedding costs this much but hey, until the matress i got fails (how foam can fail is beyond me :p) then yeah, I wouldnt spend that much.

    All I can say though is go, its free food! I just wish they would stop all the scare tactics and such. I would have still gone if they had said presentation on bedding and good sleep, free food, bring a friend. Is honesty getting the toss in the marketing industry these days?

    By Blogger Dayness, at 2:54 AM  

  • I work for a major bedding retailer in NZ, and as such I would like to think I know a thing or two about beds. From what I've read about the Wenatex system, it is a memory foam product, which although we can sell here in the store, we avoid doing so wherever possible. Here's why:

    1.) Memory foam is a petrochemical product. That means it has the potential to release harmful gases while you are sleeping.

    2.) Memory foams retain a great deal of moisture - this is not good considering that we all loose about 1/2 a litre of moisture a night.

    3.) Memory foams don't work below a certain temperature - I forget what it is but it is around 12 degrees celcius I believe. This means that when it gets colder, the mattress gets firmer.

    4.) Sometimes customers will still buy against our advise, and the feedback we've had from most is that they are 'hot and sweaty'- this is probably due to the fact that they cannot breath like other mattress types (hence the moisture retention). We have had a return from one such customer just this week.

    5.) What most sellers of memory foam products will neglect to tell you is that they are not good for athsma sufferers, and you can't use an electric blanket with them.

    6.) I do agree to some extent about electromagnetic fields produced by springs, but a far better product is solid latex, which has no springs; does not retain moisture; breathes very well; is very supportive; is a natural product (made from tree sap); and lasts about 25 years (normal sprung beds will last about 10).

    That's my two cents anyways. Any comments Wenatex? I know you're watching ;)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:53 PM  

  • Oh yes, forgot to mention that dust mites can't live in latex, so it is good for asthma sufferers too.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:59 PM  

  • I live in Samford, just outside Brisbane, and they send me the same invite. This all sounds very dodgy and not a professional organisation. This will be the most expensive free dinner you will ever have. I suggest you throw this crap in the bin. WHy would people make sure a large $ decision without evaluating all the different options. Take a few hours on a weekend and go around to several bedding stores. I am sure that you will save yourself 1000's of $'s.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:48 AM  

  • Hi

    From the bottom of New Zealand. I went to a Wenatex presentation, yesterday, salesman had all the answers, but I felt he was over the top with his dust mites, bed bugs etc, which can be found it many places around the home, not just in your bed.

    Have to admit the bed was very comfortable and did support my back, but was way over priced, for what it was. Has to be something just as good available in local bedding shops.

    Had a good meal, at one of the better restaurants in town, and with the free gift of a tube of Balm and lunch it was worth listening to the Wenatex "speel" for 2 hrs, of course, they are going to try to sell you something in return for a free meal & gift.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:05 AM  

  • I got an invitation yesterday and was thinking of going just for the meal.

    On the question of where they get your address from, I'm certain that they got it from the actual clug that the "seminar" is to be held at. It's at a golf club near where I live that I joined only recently as a social member just for discount dinners and drinks.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:34 AM  

  • How come some people got "one of the better restaurants around" and I get the Yeronga Services Club?????

    This will definitely be a case of the $5 fish and chips.

    I'll be sending my son and his girlfriend along as a life-lesson.

    As poor students they can't buy - but it should teach them that:

    1. There's no such thing as a free meal.
    2. There are no ethics in marketing.
    3. Always resist impulse buying.
    4. Try and find the humour in every situation. (I was young and stupid enough to sit through a holiday time-share "seminar" once but I use the excuse that it was before the internet.)
    5. Google before you go. (If you do read this Ted, I'm talking to you!)
    6. There are some really, really bad jobs out there if you don't apply yourself to your study.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:27 PM  

  • ok all i work for Snooze Formaly Captain Snooze let me tell you this is a scam i have seen all the inside market research into all sorts of beeds if i can suggest and type of bed just go for a good night sleep goto your nearest snooze store and lay down on a kingsdown they are exclusive to snooze and you will neva here so many sucess storys as you will froom these i has a customer in the other day who had not slept on his back for over 5 years from when he had his work place accident he layed down on the kingdown bed that the body diagnostic told me was right for his body type and he layed on his back for over 30 mins and he bought this bed and came in and saw me after his first night sleep on it and thanked me if you would like any more info come see me at Snooze Taylors Lakes as for this wenetex crape doont get sucked it its like the kirby sales people smoke and mirrors people these people are know as sharks in our industry

    By Anonymous Brian, at 9:36 PM  

  • wenetex you know what i hope you read this as a sales rep from Optus and know in another industry of sales let me tell you,....



    you make me fucking sick and you stupid sales technics shit me to tears you make the whole bedding industry look bad and for bedding specialist like Snooze and Forty Winks YES THATS RIGHT PEOPLE THERE ARE ONLY 2 SLEEPING SPECIALISTS IN AUSTRALIA THEY ARE FORTY WINKS AND SNOOOZE DONT BE SUCKED IN BY THESE DICKS



    TO THE POSTER WHO SAID LATEX IS GOOD MATE YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK YOUR RESEARCH FOR STARTERS YOU NEED SPRINGS FOR POSTURAL ALIGHMENT AND LATEX, MEMORY FOAM ETC.... FOR PRESURE RELEFE

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:25 PM  

  • I have been to 2 dinners over the last few years and the food was good both times. I didnt find the sales person to pressure you at all,the second time I went is because I have researched beds over the last few years and I keep coming back to Wenatex. All sales people are going to push there own barrow its up to each individual to check out what they really want in a bed. I have been in a waterbed for the last 20 years so ant bed is a big change for me and my husband. I have resently ordered a Wenatex sleep system and I will let you all know (Honestly ) after a few weeks how we find it.
    I would recommend anyone to go for the meal as the night is very informative, if you cant afford it dont puy if they pressure you complain to the company, as I said I have been to 2 with 2 different sales people and neither was pushy. I took a friend who has a dought with autism and she is very thorough and I thought if its crap she wont let me purchase the system, she wants to look more into for her daugher as toxins are really bad for her, and anything to reduce toxins in all of us are a good thing. Anyway my opinion only and I will let you know more soon,

    By Anonymous mrs, at 8:45 AM  

  • Latex is no good for spinal alignment?!? Do your research buddy! Though I'm sure someone who works in Optus knows more than someone who works ine the bedding industry.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:32 PM  

  • Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Latex is no good for spinal alignment?!? Do your research buddy! Though I'm sure someone who works in Optus knows more than someone who works ine the bedding industry.....


    its not latex is a body presure realeving material not alingment any one who works in the indutry will know this due to all the mats sold are spring and latex / hybrid makes not solid latex they are over prived and a total load of shit and i no longer work for optus i know work for snooze dumb ass learne to read i was sayin that sales people like this make me sick and shit me to tears

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:13 PM  

  • if latex is an alignment material why is it not sold as that its sold as a presure point releaving mat and also how are you suppoted proberly from somthing that allows you to sink in to what ever position you body wants hrmmmm you might wanna look into

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:16 PM  

  • They've just reached Woodend in Victoria. I've googled my way here and have binned my tickets.
    They may or may not be scammers and their products may indeed be wonderful but I totally dislike the fact that their promotional info has no mention of their product. They lose all credibility from that point in. I consider that kind of marketing to be dodgy.

    By Anonymous Margaret, at 6:54 PM  

  • got this invite in the mail. wont be going. I spent $5k on my bed and I aint trading down hahaha

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:01 PM  

  • hahahahhaha this company is the biggest crock of shit out there to all the suckers that fell for it and i mean suckers i fell sorry for you lmao you have bought an over priced piece of rubber lmao

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:21 PM  

  • Must admit this is one of the most interesting blogs I have ever read. Just got my invite last week and will be attending tomorrow night, Marion Hotel in Adelaide. I haven't got a problem with the sales techniques employed, they are basically paying me (via the free meal) for being a captive audience. Don't think there is any chance of them getting a sale out of me, especially since I bought a latex matress with pillows about a year ago.

    Will post back what I think of the meal and the sales pitch. Oh and maybe what I think of the bed, although it is really hard to judge this in an hour.

    By Anonymous peppie, at 11:11 AM  

  • Okay, so I went for my free meal last night and it wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. I didn't feel there was a hard sell, have been to a few time shares and they were a lot worse than this.

    The talk was informative albeit highly inaccurate. The pillows and quilts are made for polyester but no petrochemicals are used to make these products??? WTF??? Likewise with the foam in the mattress??? How do you make these without any chemicals???

    Thought the products were okay and the prices a bit on the high side but not ridiculous. The herbal inlay cost $700, that was ridiculous to be honest.

    Also told that the silver lining uses Nano-technology, not sure the presenter actually knew what it was. Not sure if that is the case, need to investigate further but highly doubtful that is the case.

    As for the bed, gave it a quick run but very difficult to determine in 5 minutes. It actually looks cheap but felt okay to lie on. Similar to memory foam but with a lot better support.

    In closing, great meal. Take the presentation with a pinch of salt. Free gifts, tube of Pedomol (supposedly worth $30, but think Deep Heat works a lot better for a third of the price). What is with the name, sounds like it has been fiddling with little kids :-)

    Final thoughts:
    Go have a look, you really have nothing to lose except 2 hours. You get a free meal and a free gift with very little pressure. Not upgrading my mattress yet but seeing I spent about $4k on my latex, this system would be cheaper. Although, not sure if it is better!!!

    By Anonymous peppie, at 9:59 AM  

  • My husband and I have just returned from a presentation, food was fine, presentation fine and in fact we bought 2 pillows ( our mattress is less than a year old ). I would be quite comfortable buying a mattress in a few years time. The people who feel this form of advertising is inappropriate do not have to go, those who are curious have the opportunity to ask questions, if they don't like the answers they don't have to buy. I asked how they got names and addresses and the answer was simple-- they bought them and randomly chose. It is fine to be wary but please people use basic common sense no-one is twisting any arms to buy.
    JB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:56 AM  

  • If these low-life companies or organisations (eg. AEC, Aust. Post) are going to sell our details to any scam that asks, the least they could do is pass the profit on to us, given that it's not theirs to sell. All the docile wenatek employees posting are only concerned about their products and whether the dinner is worth going to.

    Please respond to the comment about the unethical way in which you obtain peoples contact details.

    That seems to be the biggest reason people are cautious about your so-called business.

    Junk mail goes straight in the bin at my house. Or give them their money worth, return to sender.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:52 AM  

  • I bought a WENETEX mattress . My opinion is that they are very hard to sleep on. I have suffered a bad back ever since we purchased it. I would not recommend one. The consultant tells you that it will be the same on any base but that is not true. Paid $3000. Will probably have to throw it out and buy something else as I can't stand many more sleepless nights. Had it three weeks and hasn't improved

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:59 PM  

  • It might be worth considering that some of the people writing reports about how great a WENETEX matresses are ,are themselves sales consultants. I hope that no one has to make the expensive mistake that I have made. I am fit and healthy and since sleeping on the mattress have had terrible trouble getting to sleep. Have pain in the hips because the mattress is too hard and wake up with a BAD BACK. MY ADVISE: DO NOT BUY A WENETEX MATTRESS.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:37 PM  

  • So we got one of them invites, I had no idea what it was, so I rang to ask, and get told that it's a health survey seminar.
    That left it wide open to think it could mean anything. Thinking it might be about missing vitamins/minerals in our bodies or something.
    So I get to the venue, and find out it's about bedding....it's a talk from a bedding salesman.
    It all was informative, and the products look like good quality stuff, but so darned pricey.
    The fact that they give you the 'regular' price of what their bedding is in general, but you get it for oodles cheaper if you buy on the night.
    So there is the 'pressure' of instigating impulse buying.
    That you HAVE to make up your mind about it there and then if you want to save some money.
    Of course, you cannot buy it for that 'cheaper' price once you leave the venue, and you cannot attend another Wenatex event for another 12 months afterwards.
    That I thought was strange.
    So I bought a couple of pillows, and slept on it, and find it is no different to any cheap pillow from a regular store, except you can adjust the firmness or height by removing the inside filling.
    I found my regular shaped rubber pillow gave me better neck support than this Wenatex one.
    I can't see the value of these pillows being over $240 each.
    Somehow, I feel slightly ripped off.
    I cannot comment on the bed but when I had a little laydown on one, it did feel okay, but the real test is actually sleeping on it all night every night.
    Buying the right bed or pillow is one of the hardest things to do, and probably why so many people don't buy new beds too often.
    Wenatex have a firm "no returns policy"...so buyer beware, and I bet they have done not only their bedding research, but also on the fact there are some 'impulse buyers' bound to feel compelled to buy!
    Some good advice.....regarding the 'free dinner'
    ..........there is always free cheese in a mousetrap.

    By Anonymous hillside, at 11:48 AM  

  • Great blog! Just got my WENATEX invite - considering going, just for a lark!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:06 PM  

  • Oh dear...
    I just attended a seminar tonight, at a flashy restaurant I might add... and the meal was roast lamb with roast veges etc... bloody good really :o)
    but my oh dear is in regards to the fact that I put money towards a deposit on a mattress tonight, and after reading all this I am very torn, Ive never spend this much money on anything before and cant actually afford it, but I did the math tonight and due to many issues that were addressed tonight, it just made sense to get a decent bed/mattress etc ( didnt lose my head completely and sign up for the whole kaboodle...although Id love to) I do think its over priced, way... but as mentioned before by many, shop shits the same, cost arms n legs...
    and whats up with the person going on about after purchasing follow ups from the company?? do furniture shops ring you every other week to check in? get real!!

    anyway, the bed felt awsum with my two minute lay down (yes I am fully aware two minutes is nada) but it absorbed my butt, haha sounds odd, but no other way for me to describe.. It felt really comfy, and when I tryed laying on my tummy, my knees sunk into the bed, which was such a strange feeling but amazing, it has memory foam in a few places along the mattress, the areas that are most "heavy" shall we say? thats where it relieves the pressures,helping the body to remain aligned during sleep...

    I think I have made the right decision, but will have to await the morning light, I hope I can get out of the contract if I change my mind tomorrow... cancel the card?? hehe

    One last thing... somebody mentioned earlier.... sex.
    No one has posted about sex, and now I am curious... I wish Id asked! thats a very important topic in regards to a bed and its "life" span... the two foams together.... and loadsa movement... in which they are most probably not designed to handle..(seeing as they are meant to stop you from tossing and turning) I am thinking that it may cause damage... bring them apart perhaps?

    I dont know... but Im very glad I found this blog!! mega food for thought!
    Jenni, Whangarei NZ

    By Blogger jennifer, at 12:32 AM  

  • They get your details off the electoral roll.
    If you like the bed etc you can get it cheaper off the net. If your a sucker for the hard sell don't go also check where the dinner is for - Mine was for the local club - YUKKO food.
    I wouldn't bother chances are if you register to go your name will 'pop' up on many more mailing lists.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:09 PM  

  • Hi everyone,
    i have been reading the posts and just wanted to shed light on a few things about Wenatex, as I used to work there as a sales consultant.

    Also, I’ve gone to about 3 dinners as a guest myself, when I received an invite in the mail.

    In the end I left, as it was commission only, and also I just felt really bad selling, even though the product was great.
    How do I know this?
    1) I spent two full weeks of intensive training learning thoroughly about the product. It is impossible to relay all the info in one seminar, so a lot of it is left out. It can get quite confusing, so sometime the presenters get confused. All I know is: there was a shitload of research on sleep and a lot of attention to detail is given to the product.

    2) I’ve had a ‘sleep system’ for about 2 years now (got a major staff discount) and it’s really great!! Of course it won’t solve all your health problems and some people hate it (my Mum has one and is ambivalent). However, I myself now do overnight shifts where I sleep away from home, and I really do notice the difference in my back.

    Yes, they are quite expensive.

    No, the free dinner or lunch is not a scam, but yes it IS a sales presentation. Some locations were quite crappy, and others were extremely fancy, so this determines the quality of food.

    Yes, you really do receive a free gift (usually a peppermint rub; a laundry detergent, or a book on dreams).

    True, there is a real discounted price ON THE NIGHT ONLY. I remember the managers would always get really pissed off if they found out that the consultants breached this.

    As a sales consultants, they were very good to me and supportive, although I can’t speak for the staff in other roles.

    Yes, I’m some of the presenters are pushy, boring; and some rave on and on- but the seminar is meant to finish by 9pm.

    The ‘customer testimonials’ at the dinners are genuine – one lady at a seminar actually found her own past testimonial in there.

    They get your details from the phone book(sometimes outdated ones) and by purchasing them from marketing companies. The marketing companies get your details from the electoral role that anyone can view. If they don’t tell you this on the phone they probably don’t know themselves. (I think the call centre consultants were paid a bit shitty and there was a regular turnover there).

    They try not to send out invites more than once a year to the same address, but I am not sure if they are successful at this?

    I am not saying Wenatex is all good and perfect, they have their faults!
    I’m just saying that OVERALL – after working there for 8 months, making friends in different departments, and asking a million questions (cos I was very sus myself) – I found it to be fairly decent, and the product to be pretty good.
    I don’t regret my time there, although I would never go back to sales.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:21 AM  

  • hey everyone,i decided to look into what people thought about wenatex because my husband is currently in training to become a consultant so i wanted some infomation on peoples views to see what the chances were of my hubby being able to sell this product, to be honest im not sure if im happy with him doing this as i feel that with having 2 kids, 2 morgages, a personal loan and a whole lot of other expenses i feel that a commission only wage is too risky and unrealiable, i guess what im asking is if a wenatex sales consultant happens to read my comment or anyone that has ever lived on a commission wage could you please tell me if this is a realiable source of income and also can you please tell me what the average realistic weekly wage my husband will earn, and how do you survive if you happen to have a week or 2 or more where you dont sell anything, if anyone can help me can you please email me at dmc33087@bigpond.net.au as i may forget to read this again

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:21 PM  

  • Hello all i am a new wenatex agent and ill tell you how they get your details, they buy them, they get them from competitions yourve entered at the bottom of most of the holiday and car competitions theres a line that states your details can be used for marketing perposes.
    I believe in this product and if you listen and absorb the information you will understand it to be true dust mites are real and there are other companies like kirby who inform you of these facts. kirby even comes to your house and vacums your bed to prove it. $4000 for a vacum that doesnt eleminate the problem is a bit expensive i think. you have to remember most of our customers buy because of the pain therve suffered for years this is an orthopedic matress do your research and find another orthopedic bed in australia at a better price then ours.because many have brand names to make them sound orthapedic but there not and none of them are aloud to claim they are. check the names in the dictionary and find out what there claiming because as i said there just a brand name.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:52 AM  

  • Hi, It is now May 2009....Seems the last blog was last year.

    Just received my 2nd invite, from WENATEX EVENTS. I got one about 1 year ago and tossed it. This time I thought I would Google to check if it was another scam....(Received "THE MARIA CALLAS" one, only two days ago, that is a bad one).

    Now having read this extensive lot of Blogs, I think I will go and check it out for myself this time. At least I can save myself cooking for the night. I always say NO, to these.... "one night discount, no time to digest offers." I prefer to take my time to check and confirm other prices.

    Just as I have to three TIME SHARE invites. From these, I've had two great SHORT HOLIDAYS, and also a CD RADIO from them. Just for staying and listening to their hard sell Presentation. But my low income, and 'maybe when I retire' soon had me leaving with the gifts as were promised.

    I will follow up with a report on the Wenatex night, meal & gift, if I do go to the 'Hunts Venue' in Liverpool, later this month. Their meals are usually quite good.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:42 AM  

  • To the last comment! you forgot to post ur experience at the free dinner :)

    Anyways, I just went to the dinner with the wife and found it interesting. The principles are right, but expecting someone to fork out a lot of money after a 2hr prsentation is definitely a sign to cause alarm. These type of presentations are obviously directed to naive ppl who act on impulses.

    The presenter was shocking, she had no customer service and was rather rude and closing at her talk. Wouldn't take a 'intelligent' remark and will talk over everyone who had a comment just to make the speech. It almost looked like she was just doing it to get thru her last presentation and hang the coat. I haven't seen a salesperson be so crude and unpolite.

    Once u get past the presenter's skills, u see that the priciples behind the 'gadjets' in the new model (I guess) its actually well thought, but the high costs, selling technique, marketing strategy is definitely a sign that one should stay off this product/company.

    I feel sorry for those that got talked into buying one of these.
    FJS

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:07 PM  

  • Yeah, I cut my losses with the NON refundable deposit I made... I figured a few hundred dollars is better to depart with for nothing than a few grand for a bed I probably coulnt shag on anyway, and Id be resentful towards the very costly hunk of sponge.

    By Blogger jennifer, at 9:48 AM  

  • Hi,
    Both my partner and I got one of these. I think they got my info from the tax office or the electoral role. They are the only people with my partner living next door.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:45 PM  

  • I have been a manager in a national company for over 15 years and when I get these marketing mailers I find it interesting to research the origins of such claims. The simple facts are, that to produce the standard and volume of material, cost of distribution, cost of meals and presenters time, commissions paid on all failed and successful sales must be included in cost of production/distribution and then add margin TO EACH 1 SOLD. I also like to go fishing but these people spend so much on bait, they have to sell their catch for 10 times the asking price at your local fishmongers. We are as a rule blessed with enough inherited intelligence in our nasal passages to still smell a rat.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:52 PM  

  • Talked the whole time it ended up as only my family and presenter.
    Ate grub and then i layed out the quesions i said what if you change your sheets regulary close to every week wouldn't that keep away the dust mights. The guy said no they are microscopic.
    Then i said that what if i put more sheets. Then he said it would effect the way you mould into the bed. He was trying to be relaxed to create a possitive atmosphere and then in the end he showed us people commening about the results but i noticed that the people say excelent about the night not the bed... He seemed anxious the whole time and was trying to express that this was the only way to stop the dust mights from getting into the bed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:09 PM  

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    By Blogger Beemer, at 1:09 PM  

  • My parents-in-law got the invite and passed it to us as it's for a restaurant only about 3kms from where we live north of Levin, NZ. We've been meaning to go there for ages as people say the food is lovely, so we're tempted on that basis only! My husband is very good at saying no to things that we don't need, and as we bought a new bed and duvet only two years ago, there is no way we are looking to buy a new one. We may invite friends to come along (we have two double vouchers) and that way we can present a united front! Not sure he will be keen to sit through a two-hour presentation though, so we may pass the vouchers on.

    By Blogger Beemer, at 1:11 PM  

  • My partner and I just recieved an invite to attend the Floreat hotel in Perth. We called the hotel and they said the free meal was either steak or a chicken dish both worth about $30. We are going for the free meal, having just purchased a latex bed they have no change of selling us anything but why turn down a free feed!

    By Anonymous Jules, at 8:48 PM  

  • We too got the invite, it was down our local club that we are familiar with, so thought 'why not!'.

    As per above comments, big sales pitch.

    But me being the bloke I am, I was feinging interest, and I even got the sheila doing the sales pitch to buy me a few beers and the wife a few chardies after the sales pitch... of course as interested potential customers.

    Free meal, free grog + no sale = win!

    By Anonymous Wayne from Traralgon, at 12:14 AM  

  • ...does anyone want to sell theirs- not too úsed!!
    I am doing my research on the matresses now. went to sales pitch a few years ago. I am only worried about the memory foam as I actually like to change sleeping positions- tummy, side , back occasionally & dont want to be sealed in the same spot + reckon I would feel claustrophobic if I couldnr get out of a rut! Doe4s it gett too hot??- we have had a water bed for 20 years, 'tis great in the heat as you doesnt heat up beneath you when beds turned down!
    I/ we are 49 y/o where the aches & pains start & not overweight (yet!) so shouldnt sink too deep!
    Seems pretty close to the price of a slightly above average Sealy anyway (same or cheaper than the dearer Sealy etc ones!)
    How firm are they - med/ firm/ hard?- diff to tell afeter only a 5 mins testrun!!
    Any addit info appreciated.
    Michelle near Toowoomba, Qld

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:11 AM  

  • ps Michelle - toowomba posted on 6 Oct 2009

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:12 AM  

  • Well that was highly entertaining! My 90 year old mother (who can't resist a bargain!) asked me what I knew about Wenatex as she's received a Personal Invitation! They know about her sleep problems! (In actual fact when I've stayed with her, she snores very loudly all night, which interrupted MY sleep, but apart from about ten minutes at 4 a.m., she slept all night. However in the morning she was sure she had had a "sleepless night".!) She thought they may have been recommended by her doctor! I'll be advising her not to go to the bargain free dinner, cos she'd probably get carried away with the excitement of 25% off on the night and buy anything they suggested!

    By Anonymous Marie, at 4:29 PM  

  • Thanks for starting this Blog, far more interested in going for the free meal at the pub that was recently recommended to me by a Chef.

    I think humans have been living with parasites for a long long time.

    If I can get a baby sitter I'm going for the free feed!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:43 PM  

  • I to have had an invite from Wenatex. I Went to there sight ( posted on the bottom of there letter).

    What concerns me is the lack of info that there is, not even a photo of one of there systems.

    I had to go looking else were for info and came across this blog.

    I have an ongoing back injury and in the quest for the perfect bed went to Harvys and tried a Tempor
    mattress Very comfy but when I did my research on this product I found this out.

    MEMORY FOAM GASSES OFF!

    How can this be good for your health? The way I have this figured out is this

    A solid Latex block or, An Inner Sprung with Latex as a comfort layer. After going through 5 beds in 5 years I have settled on a bed from Brownies mattress direct here in Wellington. I was not rushed in any way by the staff and they were able to answer all of my questions. Bed has a 10 year world wide warranty under the Therapedic Brand. fantastic quality and made here in NZ. The best bed I have ever had and the price was very reasonable.


    Can I suggest that you make sure to lay down for a good half an Hr and get a good feel for any bed that your going to look at buying.

    I can't see how you can do this in a place were there is food and other people lined up looking at the same product for sale.

    Can anyone tell us if your actually given a chance to try out one of these beds on the night?

    If this company is so proud of its product then it would only seem fair to hold there price offer for some days after the initial offer and let people make an informed opinion. Sorry Wenatex but its all a bit smelly and, as I don't want to waste your time or mine, the offer of a free meal will be declined.

    In closing, I hope that this rambling pile of words is of help to some one.

    Roger.C

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:13 AM  

  • Wow, this IS the Wenatex info site! Cool.

    We thought the invite ticket was a free meal that came with our new mortgage/credit card.... my wife didn't bother to read the letter.

    So we thought we'd take her parents out for a meal (and just pay for theirs).

    We rock up (Perth) and say our booking was for 'Storm' (our surname) and the pub/restaurant say 'Wenatex', and we go 'huh' as we are led to the room.

    The sales rep and we think this is all pretty funny, but we decide to stay there anyway and have the meal. Definitely not thinking of purchasing anything.

    Anyway, Nigel (sales guy) was no-pressure and just went through his info etc on the beds.... and it all seemed to make sense. They were comfortable, especially to the oldies who have pretty bad backs (especially my wife's Dad). From being a super-skeptic he tried it out and was very impressed... just 5 min on the bed helped his pain.

    Long story short is that they bought the bed and two pillows (you can just buy the pillows if you want but to be honest $250 a pillow is HUGE and they don't have the silver or whatever to kill bugs anyway... just washable covers). Cost just under $4k for the Queen and two pillows.

    No I`m not a Wenatex flunky.... my wife's site is www.mandyleigh.com .

    I just thought I`d do a google on it and came across this. I`d love to know if the silver killing bugs is true as that is a major draw for us (and a major selling point on the bed).

    I'd also like to know if other similar mattresses are also so expensive (like the guy was saying). The mattress may be a reasonable price (maybe) but pricing a duvet/quilt at $1000 ?!?

    By Blogger Storm, at 5:21 AM  

  • Hmmm - why is it all the anecdotal stories and recommendations for the Wenatex products posted here sound like brainwashed IBO talk from Amway/Quixtar?

    Dear Wenatex consultants - I'm sorry that you have been sucked into defending silly woowoo.

    I suspect where Wenatex got my address – and I shall be writing letters to them, and the organisation that passed on my details.

    As for the poor people that got scammed - I'm sorry that you put your complete trust in these jokers.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:24 PM  

  • Went to dinner. They pretended to be waiting on '5 other people' but of course they never showed! So that left the 3 of us to sit through a boring seminar, then be highly pressured into buying a rip off bed, complete with $300 pillow cases. Rep from Wenetex would not take no for an answer, and threw a patty when we made an excuse for a quick exit. We were highly uncomfortable, he completed changed when knowing he wasnt going to get a sale, stomping around and packing up quickly barely acknowledging we were in the room, after a night of kiss assing and chit chat. We hate Wenetex, would never go again. Meal was burnt and guy was a dick.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:14 PM  

  • Jan 2010. We went to the seminar. We got into the hype and although we felt the price was way to high, decided to leave a deposit for the Queen Deluxe System so that we could benefit from the 25% discount only offered on the night. We had assumed that if we changed our mind, end of deal. However, to our horror, we were told when we rang to cancel the order (once we came home and googled Wenatex and came down from the hype of this overpriced product), that our deposit was non refundable. It was there in black and white on the order form, but we didn't see it because we unfortunately got completely over excited and signed up on impulse. I know that this is how I shop, but when you buy from a reputable store, you always have the choice to return the goods or cancel the order.

    The option we have now is to spend the deposit ($519.00) on one of their overpriced products. Which leaves me with the option of buying two pillows at $254.00 each (that's minus the discount), or some lame, overpriced Sheraton sheet sets (a crappy 300 thread count), or basic overpriced towels. I am kicking myself! I could have brought two Tempur pillows for less than that. This was one expensive mistake. Hope this helps and warns others. By the way, we found out afterwards, that we could have put a 10% deposit on one pillow and that would have locked in a 25% discount on whatever else we wanted to buy, we could change the order at any time as long as it was done before the order was ready to be delivered and paid in full.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:50 AM  

  • I got my invitation yesterday for a seminar in Kaiapoi NZ. We just recently purchased a new bed with one Tempur mattress and another one with different memory foam (can't remember the name). Did loads of research and got the different memory foam mattresses to try out before we spent the money. Memory foam mattresses are great and I sleep really well on my Tempur one and it was worth every cent. No more sore backs, numbness or pressure points and no need for an electric blanket. Before anyone spends that sort of money though they should get a demo mattress and try it out for a few sleeps first. If we decide to go to the seminar we would be just going for the free dinner.

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    By Blogger somaie, at 3:59 PM  

  • February 2010 - I received an invitation in the mail today. We aren't going as I can't be bothered going to the Elizabeth Tavern for a pub meal and then subjected to the sales spill as well as the fact my husband has trouble saying 'no' to anything. My invitation was addressed under my maiden name which I haven't used in 4 years, so have no idea where they got my name or address from???

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:35 PM  

  • we went last night, first time that we attended a free dinner.. i mean, marketing seminar :p

    food was awesome, venue was ok, presenter was a great speaker and did her job. unsure about the science behind it all but seemed logical.

    price was expensive given our income level. we wouldn't buy and probably can't afford a merc, even though it might be one of the safest cars around. we have a tempur and based on our experience, it's great and i wouldn't need anything else. oh wait, let me clean off those dust mites and their sh..

    like i said, presenter was great and very informative (about sleep, about the bed, about similar products like tempur and latex). felt sorry that we said no at the end, but that's part of her job i guess!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:17 AM  

  • They tried to make me go to Wenatex and I said No No No.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:13 AM  

  • Here's an idea.

    For our son's single bed I bought a simple foam mattress on special for $38. We already had a 1" contoured foam overlay so I put that on top. Then I saw a "memory" foam topper, on special, for $79 - so we bought it and whacked it on top too. To finally complete the whole creation, I just could not resist the double "pure Aussie wool" mattress cover, again on special for $79. All this sits on a slatted base. So for the grand price of $200 plus or minus a few bob our son now has the best bed in the house. Oh, sorry, I forgot about the roll up "camping" quarter inch super hard foam mattresses ( only approx $10 - $20 each at any camping store) I whacked in there as well. So for much less than the price of even one Wenatex pillow you can put your own personalised, mix and match, sleep system together.

    Now we're thinking of the "Herbal Inlay" Blanket. For this we will probably go to St Vinnies and buy a quilt cover for $8 and then fill it with a $2 packet of mixed herbs from woolies (heck we might even extend ourselves and buy some special "alpine" herbs for $5 ) - and viola - you now have your "herbal" sleep system too - and you're still under the price of one Wenatex pillow :-)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:29 PM  

  • I bought one just over a year ago and I never had any back problems until I started sleeping on it and now on the base there is mold very strange since there is no logical reason why there would be mold on it. From now on I will only do retail and fair prices. It was good with my allergies in the beginning but for the last few months I have been waking up with allergies again. May-be they made a mistake with mine because it NEVER felt great like the demo one either I feel like I have been totally scammed and if they do not fix the problem I will be selling my story to get my money back on it

    By Blogger angelmagic, at 9:10 AM  

  • Aaand they've made it to the backwoods of the lower North Island NZ. Looks like the text of the letter hasn't changed in over 4 years. No name on ours - just our address - so I'm guessing that much of their distribution is simply 'to the Householder'.

    Our offered 'lovely surroundings' for our 'beautiful dinner' is at the Motor Lodge in Greytown. Now, there's some extremely nice places to eat in Greytown, the fare of which I would be more inclined to describe as a 'beautiful dinner' than the good old ML - why not be more direct? 'Come and have a nice dinner at blah blah blah. Listen to our sales seminar about BEDS'. Kiwis (and Aussies) respond to directness. Anything else is just shifty.

    Tempted to go, just to point out a few things about asthma, dust mites, petrochemical products... well informed here, as my husband is a chronic asthmatic, and we have a mattress that dust mites can't live in; wooden floors in the house; and so on - but then, I have better things to do with my Friday night.

    Thanks for the read - some funny, interesting thoughts.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:57 PM  

  • Went to the dinner as well since I am usually pretty good at saying no to stuff. Dinner was just ok - food was nice enough but the bare minimum to be called dinner. I also wasn't too impressed with the presenters - they were ok but not especially convincing. Some of the info on sleep cycles was interesting.
    However, we did buy the bed because. 1. It really is a great bed - best I've ever tried by far. 2. Our old latex one is over 20 years old and really saggy in places.
    3. To replace it with another latex one costs about the same amount. You can get cheaper latex ones but the core is not latex so it gets saggy more quickly. Even ours only has some dense latex layers on the top and, after 20 years, the inner structure had pretty much collapsed. And it's soo heavy.
    The contract clearly stated that there is a 7 day cooling off period and that all money would be refunded if we changed our mind. I used that time to do lots of research and decided to stick with it.
    Now that we have the bed, I'm so glad that we bought it. I found it wonderful from night 1 and have slept a lot better in it than our old bed (which I used to think was so great). Pillow and duvet are also great but I didn't get the herbs as I think I could do that a lot cheaper.
    There were a few people there obviously out for the free dinner and not interested in the bed and there was no pressure put on them at all. They sold 2 beds so did pretty well and they would be expecting most people not to buy. To us, the bed really sold itself -it wasn't the presenters who coaxed us into it and, if they had, I would have gotten out of it with no hesitation.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:55 PM  

  • My partner and I went to one of these in Adelaide in September 2010. Some very interesting info presented but it went for 3 hours on a weeknight and by the end of it, it was like 'just tell us the price already so we can go home to bed'. There was some pressure at the end, a bit 'help me help you afford this'. and when I said no, he started on my partner asking him what he thought. (What, my decision wasn't final enough cause I'm the female?)
    Dinner was beef schnitzel or squid, not bad but for the 3 hours you're probably better off going to the local pubs snitty night for $8. They did give us lollies to munch on while we listened to the spiel and we got our two free gifts each (choice of dream book, slippers, clothes washing liquid or herbal cream (bit like deep heat). The herbal cream smells like peppermint = great. They try to scare you into buying their sleep system when they tell you about the bed bugs and their excrement, I've managed to sleep alright since though :P
    In the end, while the sales guy was really nice throughout the pitch, he is pushy at the end but yet insists he is only there to give you good information and offer a solution to all that he's told you. He wasn't happy when we said we'd leave it as we couldn't afford it. At their prices, if only one system is bought each night they'd make a crap load of money.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:29 PM  

  • Since buying one of these things my partner is STIFF in all the WRONG PLACES! Everywhere except where he should be! FUCK THE FUCKING FUCKERS.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:45 PM  

  • The only way I can stop my wife from rooting around while I'm away as a long distance truck driver is to bloody make sure we have a Wenawank mattress. They're so uncomfy that no red blooded bloke will climb onto one. Problem solved.
    Ben, WA

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:58 AM  

  • ROLFLMFOA at the last two posts!!! hard case alright! I never did get one... but paid deposit before realising I was caught in the hype!... I lost my $150.00 but am glad of it now, as I dont have a shitter bed and a phenomenal debt. :o)

    By Anonymous Jennifer, at 5:53 PM  

  • Jennifer (and everyone), I also lost my deposit. I had the same experience as you, but I was offered some dodgy pillows as a replacement. But it meant shelling out even MORE money as they're nearly $300 each. I felt really hassled on the night to sign up for the bed, and assumed there'd be a cooling off period if I changed my mind. There isn't. Because it's on their hired premises. My cousin has one of these and has had a terrible experience with it. She says it is really hard and uncomfortable and that she can get no joy out of the company now that she has shelled out the cash for it. Noone will help her, and she has a disability and needs ortho support. I would never recommend this mob to anyone. Definitely not even for a free meal of cheap steak and chips.
    Mel

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:26 PM  

  • Has reached Timaru, N.Z. Went for the free dinner and curiosity. Was a standard nice roast beef and 3 veg. I realised there would be some selling involved but did not feel any hard pressure, more subtle sophisticated techniques.Of note were the fear tactics re dustmites,etc. and the hype of the superiority of the product, the next best thing to sliced bed. The silver threads, etc. Received a Pedimol balm, friend got a dream book so pretty happy with these. Aussie presenter was very clever, but needed to be to get through my defences, which he didn't. My friend was sold and would've bought one there and then if she'd had the money. Almost raised a smile on his face when she told him she was broke. I would have saved her at the last second if required. Just needed to remind her she is a witless bimbo who once spent 3 thousand on pills to make her boobs bigger. Yes, ladies and gentlemen such people do exist. If you're not exploiting them, you're saving them from themselves. Wenatex definitely works on the impulse buy in all of us. The so-called discount on the night. My advice- go along for the experience, especially if you dig free stuff, but don't buy. Its ridiculously overpriced so that if you did buy you'll wake up in the morning wishing the prolonged brainwash the night before was all just a horrible nightmare.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:20 PM  

  • Went to the presentation with an open mind, looking to buy an orthopaedic bed. I thought that the sleep system was a joke. Sleep system? It folds up like a camp bed! It is like an ultra thin period pad. I could not believe how cheap and nasty it looked for the ridiculous cost of it. Talk about flimsy........ These guys lug these camping mattresses around in their cars. The company should be renamed Libratex!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:32 AM  

  • My son, who is 81, and still in my care, living at home, bought one of these mattresses. He was hoping to lure an appropriate princess to continue the family lineage. He did find one suitable lass from the highlands of the Philipines - and alas, is now experiencing performance issues. My son Clarence blames this mattress for his woes.
    Kindly
    Doris
    PS: Update - Clarence's wife has run off with a man who owns a Sealy.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:22 PM  

  • This is Clarence. I type this with a shaky hand. Am wondering if I can get a partial refund, because the scotchguard was unnecessary (unfortunately). The mattress is in pristine condition, with not a wet patch in sight.
    Cordially,
    Clarence
    PS: Are there are any fecund lasses out there willing to try out another brand of mattress?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:25 PM  

  • This is Ambrosio. I want to respond to Doris. You are being very ignorant old woman. My homeland is PhiliPPines. 2 P. Not 1. Ok? I left your son because of all the money problems we had after going into debt for the Wenatex mattress. There was no more money for nightclubbing or fun times. It was boring. My new man, he has Sealy. Sealy got good bounce.
    Please stop calling me, Clarence.
    Ambrosio

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:31 PM  

  • LMfreakinAO!!

    By Anonymous Jennifer, at 1:36 PM  

  • I was the only sucker who even showed up at my dinner! Talk about uncomfortable. I ate, and made my excuses (preplanned "emergencÿ" phone call) and ran for the hills. Ha ha.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:54 AM  

  • go to the dinners while you still can..these idiots are in shit street financially so the more people that attend the free dinners will speed up that process then everyone will be safe from receiving their crap in the mail

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:08 PM  

  • also dont buy anything because theyre likely to fold on ya and you will never see the money again

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:42 PM  

  • We went to a Wenatex dinner last night, Thursday 3 March, 2011, the salesman catered for 5 couples, we were the only ones to turn up, the salesman called his son and his sons mate to come and eat with us, the salesman was not pushy but the beds were so pricey, told us all the crap about bed bugs etc, the mattress I have is not an expensive one but I sleep 8-9 hours a night and do not stir, I liked the idea of being able to turn the mattress more often as it is so light, but far too expensive for the average person. Enjoyed the meal and the free gifts and went home without buying.

    By Anonymous Joy Russell, at 9:01 AM  

  • Got my letter on Friday.

    Whenever I get an "invitation" like this, I always track down where they got my details from. Wenatex advised they got them from Data Solutions, but refused to give me Data Solutions contact details.

    No matter, I've contacted Data Solutions many times before. They confirmed I am on the Do Not Write (and Do Not Call) lists - and that they hadn't provided Wenatex with a list for more than 12 months.

    Next step was an email complaint to the Australian Direct Marketing Association.

    (PS: Would have gone to the free dinner, but it's at a cafe at a not-so-nearby shopping centre. Not that appealing.)

    By Blogger Neb Maat Re, at 9:50 AM  

  • PS: References to obtaining details from the Electoral Roll are false: the Electoral Commission stopped selling lists in 2004.

    ADMA are now giving me a hard time because my complaint was about "Wenatex Events" and their member is called "Wenatex Australia".

    By Blogger Neb Maat Re, at 11:23 AM  

  • Wenatex have now confirmed they got my details from a list they purchased in 2004 - 7 years ago!

    When you buy these lists, you usually only have a 12 month licence from the supplier to use them.

    So not only are they sneaky, they're cheap!

    By Blogger Neb Maat Re, at 4:26 PM  

  • Wenatex is expensive and therefore, I don't have one. My friends who own a Wenatex mattress say its nice..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:44 PM  

  • My husband and I just went to a evening tonight and apart from how filthy we are by allowing our children to sleep with dust mites and skin cells I didn't buy the bed but I was really impressed with their pillows but we will research good quality pillows before we buy anything.

    I didn't like the sales pitch but it was a free feed.

    By Blogger phills, at 11:02 PM  

  • My husband and I just went to a evening tonight and apart from how filthy we are by allowing our children to sleep with dust mites and skin cells I didn't buy the bed but I was really impressed with their pillows but we will research good quality pillows before we buy anything.

    I didn't like the sales pitch but it was a free feed.

    By Blogger phills, at 11:03 PM  

  • After buying a mattress from Wenatex and since day 1 of sleeping on it, I have had terrible back and neck pain which will not go away. After waking up the first day, it felt like I had been in a car accident and couldn't move my neck, back or arms without being in intense pain. It slowly got better during the day but then returned when I lay on the bed and got up the next day. The pattern has been happening ever since for the past 2 months. I have never had back problems before. During the first month and a half, I didn't get a decent sleep, waking up every 30 minutes in pain. I am on anti-inflams now to give me a bit more of a sleep but the pain is still there in the morning.. dies down during the day then returns the following morning after sleeping on the mattress.

    I told Wenatex of this and they don't care at all blaming it on me.

    Thanks very much Wenatex. I don't know what to do now.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:28 PM  

  • Just got one of these myself, only mine only had the street address - no name. They must be blanket sweeping street addresses now, bypassing the need for personal information. The "$50 free gift voucher" has on the back a form to write down all your personal information before you can get your "free gift worth $50". I'm betting our "free gift" is being added to a mailing list, worth $50 to THEM when they sell your details!
    Also, as a student of the physiological and psychological sciences, with a sleep disorder, specialising in sleep in my education and personal life, I highly doubt there is anything these people can offer that would make any real difference. Anything herbal is bullshit - take for example the most common sleep herb, valerian: it takes 2 weeks of consistent use (by swallowing) to perform at its best, and is enhanced by taking hops or lemonbalm at the same time. It's the organic compounds in the herbs that do the job, NOT the scent.
    Regardless, the biggest effectors on sleep quality are not your bed, or its bedding; it's excercise and routine. Other effectors include temperature, light, mental relaxation, physical relaxation, diet, dietary supplements, herbal supplements and a few others. Sure, a comfortable bed helps, but if you want better sleep, google some insomnia stuff. You'll get much better results by making small tweaks to your general day routine than by getting a new bed...

    By Blogger Draikyn, at 9:04 PM  

  • well guess what... Id made a deposit many moons ago, around 3 years ago, and Ive just been contacted by Govt agency here n NZ that gave me my $150.00 back as wenatex had plead guilty of... excuse for better words, fucking with the terms n conditions and ripping people off!!! hehehe they got BUSTED!!

    By Anonymous Jennifer Cowlishaw WHANGAREI, at 7:44 AM  

  • Dec 2011 found one of thses invites in the mailbox but it wasnt addressed to anyone Just a generic Complimentary dinner invitation, Tuesday 3rd Jan 2012 at 7:00pm Please respond ASAP

    By Blogger BigAl55, at 12:36 AM  

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